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Are you suggesting that in baseball pitchers actually aim to hit the "home plate umpire"?

hotnfresh 3y ago
No, but their main (but not only!) activity is judging balls and strikes (whether a pitch that was not hit passed through an imaginary rectangle defined by the height of the batter’s knees and armpits, and the sides of home plate) and in Cricket the pitcher (?) wants to hit the wicket (?) such that you don’t need to judge that (the sticks do, by getting knocked over, or not getting knocked over)
- dylan604 3y ago
  >in Cricket the pitcher (?) in Cricket, the Bowler
  - hotnfresh 3y ago
    There we go. Thank you. I usually learn rules and terminology to sports I’ve played little or not at all, by playing sports video games. I’ve yet to find ones for rugby or cricket that I liked, so continue to barely understand them.
    - wizofaus 3y ago
      FWIW in Australia we have reasonable exposure to baseball (and/or softball and even "rounders", both of which we got to play at school a few times), so much of the terminology and the basic rules are well enough known. I wouldn't say the same for gridiron though, which I've never seen played here at all. Do you even see people playing cricket anywhere in the US? Surely in areas with large subcontinental populations (SV?) there'd be some uptake?
      - hotnfresh 3y ago
        > Do you even see people playing cricket anywhere in the US It’s not impossible to find, and exactly where you’d expect: the closer you are to a major population center, and the larger & more internationally-prestigious the nearest university, the more like you are to see it in the wild. But over most of the US, yeah, you could easily go your whole life and never even see a cricket bat in person, let alone a match being played. Rugby seems to be a significantly more popular than cricket, though still uncommon, considered over the whole geography of the country.
- wizofaus 3y ago
  Fair enough, hadn't thought of it that way. Though of course cricket has a stumps (bowler's end) umpire too, who has to judge if the delivery is legal (i.e. it must not be "thrown" and the bowler's foot must be behind the line etc. And if the ball is too wide the batting team gets a "free" run etc.), and whether a catch taken by the keeper was off the bat, or if the batter used their legs to prevent the ball hitting the stumps etc etc.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    Some cricket match that was on at the pub when I was visiting New Zealand had me mesmerized on the level of "judging". In baseball, there's the checked swing to consider in being considered a strike. In cricket, they have mics and listen for the strike to judge. There were other similar things that just revealed why a cricket test can last for days, and made me wish for the "speed" of a baseball game.

No, but their main (but not only!) activity is judging balls and strikes (whether a pitch that was not hit passed through an imaginary rectangle defined by the height of the batter’s knees and armpits, and the sides of home plate) and in Cricket the pitcher (?) wants to hit the wicket (?) such that you don’t need to judge that (the sticks do, by getting knocked over, or not getting knocked over)

dylan604 3y ago
>in Cricket the pitcher (?) in Cricket, the Bowler
- hotnfresh 3y ago
  There we go. Thank you. I usually learn rules and terminology to sports I’ve played little or not at all, by playing sports video games. I’ve yet to find ones for rugby or cricket that I liked, so continue to barely understand them.
  - wizofaus 3y ago
    FWIW in Australia we have reasonable exposure to baseball (and/or softball and even "rounders", both of which we got to play at school a few times), so much of the terminology and the basic rules are well enough known. I wouldn't say the same for gridiron though, which I've never seen played here at all. Do you even see people playing cricket anywhere in the US? Surely in areas with large subcontinental populations (SV?) there'd be some uptake?
    - hotnfresh 3y ago
      > Do you even see people playing cricket anywhere in the US It’s not impossible to find, and exactly where you’d expect: the closer you are to a major population center, and the larger & more internationally-prestigious the nearest university, the more like you are to see it in the wild. But over most of the US, yeah, you could easily go your whole life and never even see a cricket bat in person, let alone a match being played. Rugby seems to be a significantly more popular than cricket, though still uncommon, considered over the whole geography of the country.
wizofaus 3y ago
Fair enough, hadn't thought of it that way. Though of course cricket has a stumps (bowler's end) umpire too, who has to judge if the delivery is legal (i.e. it must not be "thrown" and the bowler's foot must be behind the line etc. And if the ball is too wide the batting team gets a "free" run etc.), and whether a catch taken by the keeper was off the bat, or if the batter used their legs to prevent the ball hitting the stumps etc etc.
- dylan604 3y ago
  Some cricket match that was on at the pub when I was visiting New Zealand had me mesmerized on the level of "judging". In baseball, there's the checked swing to consider in being considered a strike. In cricket, they have mics and listen for the strike to judge. There were other similar things that just revealed why a cricket test can last for days, and made me wish for the "speed" of a baseball game.