Ah, so now your original statement becomes clearer! When you said > Look at all the monad insanity Haskell has to do to get the equivalent of a print statemen

Ah, so now your original statement becomes clearer! When you said > Look at all the monad insanity Haskell has to do to get the equivalent of a print statement perhaps you really meant > Look at all the monad insanity Haskell has to do to get the equivalent of a print statement within pure code I still don't agree as such, but yes, there is indeed ceremony involved in turning something that was pure into something effectful. That is in fact the whole point!