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So a more advanced and feature rich version of Ryzen's IO die, with dedicated silicon for AI of course. Can't wait for Microsoft and Intel to team together to

So a more advanced and feature rich version of Ryzen's IO die, with dedicated silicon for AI of course. Can't wait for Microsoft and Intel to team together to make an ultra AI search bar that can finally find files properly like back in Windows 7...

speed_spread 3y ago
Instead the AI will be made part of the unkillable core "security" services and actually be used to find ways to reroute Windows telemetry around DNS blockers, autoconnect to all smart appliances in the house and teach the dog to report on your most intimate habits.
- szszrk 3y ago
  In win11 I am unable to even find apps (properly installed via signed msi) by typing it's full name. Searching for setting screens is also a pain in the ass, especially if you use different language. MS recognizes only their own translation, not the most intuitive text, not English text ... you just have to know
brucethemoose2 3y ago
> ultra AI search bar Or you could use literally any other search program that works wonderfully, without the indexing process using an eyebrow raising amount of CPU? Including Microsoft's own shockingly fast file search in VSCode. > feature rich version of Ryzen's IO die The interconnect Intel is using is more expensive/sophisticated than AMD's (but less expensive than the TSVs for the X3D chips), so hopefully its pretty good in laptops? AMD's IO die setup burns tons of idle power, which is why the laptop parts are still monolithic.
- Voultapher 3y ago
  FYI that VSCode search is powered by ripgrep.
  - brucethemoose2 3y ago
    Well MS should pull ripgrep into Windows, as its indeed hilariously fast.
wolpoli 3y ago
Windows 95 had a powerful search dialog that could search by file size/date ranges/content. Perhaps we could have that back, but with AI enhancement?
- sumtechguy 3y ago
  I would even settle for just 'back'.
elromulous 3y ago
In case folks don't know about Everything[0], it is so truly excellent. [0] https://www.voidtools.com/ https://www.voidtools.com/
xnx 3y ago
It's an embarrassment that sub-second feature-rich file search isn't built in to Windows. Fortunately there's a truly excellent third-party utility that is probably the second thing I install on any new Windows install (after Chrome): https://www.voidtools.com/support/everything/ https://www.voidtools.com/support/everything/
- Aromasin 3y ago
  "Everything" should be a standard on every Windows computer. I've found files that I thought completely lost to the ether, including actual Ethereum after I had lost my key deep in my file directories after an accidental drag and drop.
- mtreis86 3y ago
  Every machine I get my hands on gets Search Everything and Terra Copy. I usually start new machines by installing some stuff through https://ninite.com https://ninite.com because Windows still doesn't have a proper package manager.
  - tibbydudeza 3y ago
    Chocolatey and Microsoft own winget
    - donmcronald 3y ago
      Often I think some of that stuff is strategically made to be just good enough to discourage competition and so it never actually becomes good enough to be mainstream. Look at how WinGet was launched with just enough effort to kill AppGet. It was a big announcement that was the equivalent of “avoid this space or we’ll crush you” and then what? Nothing innovative has happened since they killed the innovator (AppGet).
      - lostmsu 3y ago
        What exactly was the innovation of AppGet, that wasn't already in Chocolatey?
Arrath 3y ago
I just want a search that shows what I'm looking for when I've typed the first three characters of the search term (as, e.g. the windows start menu does now), but still shows that result when I type the 4th character before my brain processes the fact that the result is there (you know, since my responses aren't that fuckin fast) and all the results change up.
- fbdab103 3y ago
  I choose to believe this behavior somehow drives ad revenue to Microsoft and is not incompetence. Otherwise, why would they throw away the previously working behavior?
donmcronald 3y ago
> search bar that can finally find files properly like back in Windows 7 I don’t think that quality is ever coming back. No matter what, they’re going to be connecting to bing for the top results / ads, so you’ll always have a bunch of latency and will never get back to Win 7 levels of local only performance. It’s sad and the AI, which is mostly useless based on my experience, is going to suck up even more CPU cycles and add even more latency. For me, it takes 5 seconds for the start search to respond on first use. My 12th gen i5 with NVMe storage and Win 11 literally runs worse than my 4th gen i7 with a first gen SSD and Win 7. Microsoft has usurped a decade of computing gains and spent them on ads and tracking. Don’t expect anything that benefits the user in the near future.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  There already exists a fast serarch tool reasleased by Microsoft themselves, called PowerToys Run. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/run https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/run
  - lostmsu 3y ago
    Nah, just go straight to Everything.
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smolder 3y ago
I think MS is beyond redeeming and there's little reason to stick with windows at this point.
nikanj 3y ago
At least a few times every week I have to pop open a cygwin window to run "find / -iname xxxxxxxxx" Finding a local file with an already known name is nigh-impossible with the current Windows search.

speed_spread 3y ago

Instead the AI will be made part of the unkillable core "security" services and actually be used to find ways to reroute Windows telemetry around DNS blockers, autoconnect to all smart appliances in the house and teach the dog to report on your most intimate habits.

szszrk 3y ago
In win11 I am unable to even find apps (properly installed via signed msi) by typing it's full name. Searching for setting screens is also a pain in the ass, especially if you use different language. MS recognizes only their own translation, not the most intuitive text, not English text ... you just have to know

brucethemoose2 3y ago

> ultra AI search bar Or you could use literally any other search program that works wonderfully, without the indexing process using an eyebrow raising amount of CPU? Including Microsoft's own shockingly fast file search in VSCode. > feature rich version of Ryzen's IO die The interconnect Intel is using is more expensive/sophisticated than AMD's (but less expensive than the TSVs for the X3D chips), so hopefully its pretty good in laptops? AMD's IO die setup burns tons of idle power, which is why the laptop parts are still monolithic.

Voultapher 3y ago
FYI that VSCode search is powered by ripgrep.
- brucethemoose2 3y ago
  Well MS should pull ripgrep into Windows, as its indeed hilariously fast.

wolpoli 3y ago

Windows 95 had a powerful search dialog that could search by file size/date ranges/content. Perhaps we could have that back, but with AI enhancement?

sumtechguy 3y ago
I would even settle for just 'back'.

elromulous 3y ago

In case folks don't know about Everything[0], it is so truly excellent. [0] https://www.voidtools.com/ https://www.voidtools.com/

xnx 3y ago

It's an embarrassment that sub-second feature-rich file search isn't built in to Windows. Fortunately there's a truly excellent third-party utility that is probably the second thing I install on any new Windows install (after Chrome): https://www.voidtools.com/support/everything/ https://www.voidtools.com/support/everything/

Aromasin 3y ago
"Everything" should be a standard on every Windows computer. I've found files that I thought completely lost to the ether, including actual Ethereum after I had lost my key deep in my file directories after an accidental drag and drop.
mtreis86 3y ago
Every machine I get my hands on gets Search Everything and Terra Copy. I usually start new machines by installing some stuff through https://ninite.com https://ninite.com because Windows still doesn't have a proper package manager.
- tibbydudeza 3y ago
  Chocolatey and Microsoft own winget
  - donmcronald 3y ago
    Often I think some of that stuff is strategically made to be just good enough to discourage competition and so it never actually becomes good enough to be mainstream. Look at how WinGet was launched with just enough effort to kill AppGet. It was a big announcement that was the equivalent of “avoid this space or we’ll crush you” and then what? Nothing innovative has happened since they killed the innovator (AppGet).
    - lostmsu 3y ago
      What exactly was the innovation of AppGet, that wasn't already in Chocolatey?

Arrath 3y ago

I just want a search that shows what I'm looking for when I've typed the first three characters of the search term (as, e.g. the windows start menu does now), but still shows that result when I type the 4th character before my brain processes the fact that the result is there (you know, since my responses aren't that fuckin fast) and all the results change up.

fbdab103 3y ago
I choose to believe this behavior somehow drives ad revenue to Microsoft and is not incompetence. Otherwise, why would they throw away the previously working behavior?

donmcronald 3y ago

> search bar that can finally find files properly like back in Windows 7 I don’t think that quality is ever coming back. No matter what, they’re going to be connecting to bing for the top results / ads, so you’ll always have a bunch of latency and will never get back to Win 7 levels of local only performance. It’s sad and the AI, which is mostly useless based on my experience, is going to suck up even more CPU cycles and add even more latency. For me, it takes 5 seconds for the start search to respond on first use. My 12th gen i5 with NVMe storage and Win 11 literally runs worse than my 4th gen i7 with a first gen SSD and Win 7. Microsoft has usurped a decade of computing gains and spent them on ads and tracking. Don’t expect anything that benefits the user in the near future.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
There already exists a fast serarch tool reasleased by Microsoft themselves, called PowerToys Run. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/run https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/run
- lostmsu 3y ago
  Nah, just go straight to Everything.

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smolder 3y ago

I think MS is beyond redeeming and there's little reason to stick with windows at this point.

nikanj 3y ago

At least a few times every week I have to pop open a cygwin window to run "find / -iname xxxxxxxxx" Finding a local file with an already known name is nigh-impossible with the current Windows search.