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>the word NATO doesn’t even appear in it. The word NATO appeared in every diplomatic negotiation about the Donbas preceding and subsequent to the war. Don't wa

>the word NATO doesn’t even appear in it. The word NATO appeared in every diplomatic negotiation about the Donbas preceding and subsequent to the war. Don't waste people's time with nonsense-- I can find an article in US media that also puts forward every conceivable position if I try hard enough. >Regardless of that Russia has multiple international agreements with Ukraine (that are formalised) that say they will never threaten their sovereignty. Why doesn’t Russia have to follow those?. You mean like the Minsk accords that Zelensky failed to implement? The Ukrainian people put their faith in him to end the war, but he caved to the Right. Turns out actors don't make good presidents, as we know in the US as well. https://harpers.org/archive/2023/10/the-tragedy-of-volodymyr-zelensky/ https://harpers.org/archive/2023/10/the-tragedy-of-volodymyr...

_kbh_ 3y ago
> Don't waste people's time with nonsense-- I can find an article in US media that also puts forward every conceivable position if I try hard enough It’s not nonsense it’s russias own position on the war straight from there own kremlin approved propaganda outlets. I know it’s an inconvenient article as it dispels the narrative of this war being about NATO and shows it for what it really is, russian imperialism. > You mean like the Minsk accords that Zelensky failed to implement? All the agreements I speak off predate the Minsk accords by years to decades. russia didn’t follow any of them so why should we have faith they would follow anything new?. It’s not like russia obeyed the Minsk accords either (shocking I know). russia doesn’t appear to follow international agreements when it doesn’t benefit them. So once again I ask why does russia get to ignore and violate all the formalised agreements it has with Ukraine. Where as everyone else has to obey vague not in writing promises that where never formalised?.

_kbh_ 3y ago

> Don't waste people's time with nonsense-- I can find an article in US media that also puts forward every conceivable position if I try hard enough It’s not nonsense it’s russias own position on the war straight from there own kremlin approved propaganda outlets. I know it’s an inconvenient article as it dispels the narrative of this war being about NATO and shows it for what it really is, russian imperialism. > You mean like the Minsk accords that Zelensky failed to implement? All the agreements I speak off predate the Minsk accords by years to decades. russia didn’t follow any of them so why should we have faith they would follow anything new?. It’s not like russia obeyed the Minsk accords either (shocking I know). russia doesn’t appear to follow international agreements when it doesn’t benefit them. So once again I ask why does russia get to ignore and violate all the formalised agreements it has with Ukraine. Where as everyone else has to obey vague not in writing promises that where never formalised?.