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openai chatgpt seems to be stuck in a "Look, cool demo" mode. 1. According to demo, they seem to pair voice input with TTS output. What if I wanna use voice to

openai chatgpt seems to be stuck in a "Look, cool demo" mode. 1. According to demo, they seem to pair voice input with TTS output. What if I wanna use voice to describe a program I want it to write? 2. Furthermore, if you gonna do a voice assistant, why not go the full way with wake-words and VAD? 3. Not releasing it to everyone is potentially a way to create a hype cycle prior to users discovering that the multimodality is rather meh. 4. The bike demo could actually use visual feedback to see what it's talking about ala segment anything. It's pretty confusing to get a paragraph explanation of what tool to pick. In my https://chatcraft.org https://chatcraft.org, we added voice incrementally. So i can swap typing and voice. We can also combine it with function-calling, etc. We also use openai apis. Except in our case there is no weird waitlist. You pop in your api key and get access to voice input immediately.

thumbsup-_- 3y ago
Everything has a starting point. This is a big leap forward. Know any other organization that is releasing such advanced capabilities directly to the public? If you want to plug your tool you don't have to bad mouth the demo. Just share your thing. It doesn't have to be win-lose.
- tarasglek 3y ago
  Fair criticism re excessive hate. I just feel like their tool isn't getting more useful, just getting more features. Constant hype cycle around features that could've been good is drowning out people doing more helpful stuff. I guess I'm envious too?
skybrian 3y ago
1. Why do that at all? Describing your program in writing seems better all around. Are you sure you're not the one who's asking for a cool demo? 3. Rolling out releases gradually is something most tech companies do these days, particularly when they could attract a large audience and consume a lot of resources. There are solid technical reasons for this. You may not need to roll things out gradually for a small site, but things are different at scale.
- tarasglek 3y ago
  1. Is basically workaround for temporary disability. I use voice when I'm on mobile. I can describe the problem, get a program generated, click run to verify it. 3. Maybe. Their feature rollouts feel more like what other companies do via unannounced A/B testing.
  - skybrian 3y ago
    Good point on disabilities. I guess they're not working on that yet? Whether you can get away with doing things unannounced depends on how much attention the company gets. Some companies have a lot of journalists watching them and writing about everything they do, so when they start doing A/B testing there will be stories written about the new feature regardless. Better to put out some kind of announcement so the journalists write something more accurate? (This approach seems pretty common for Google.) Similarly, many game company can't really do beta testing without it leaking. OpenAI is in the spotlight. Hype will happen whether they want it or not.
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thumbsup-_- 3y ago

Everything has a starting point. This is a big leap forward. Know any other organization that is releasing such advanced capabilities directly to the public? If you want to plug your tool you don't have to bad mouth the demo. Just share your thing. It doesn't have to be win-lose.

tarasglek 3y ago
Fair criticism re excessive hate. I just feel like their tool isn't getting more useful, just getting more features. Constant hype cycle around features that could've been good is drowning out people doing more helpful stuff. I guess I'm envious too?

skybrian 3y ago

1. Why do that at all? Describing your program in writing seems better all around. Are you sure you're not the one who's asking for a cool demo? 3. Rolling out releases gradually is something most tech companies do these days, particularly when they could attract a large audience and consume a lot of resources. There are solid technical reasons for this. You may not need to roll things out gradually for a small site, but things are different at scale.

tarasglek 3y ago
1. Is basically workaround for temporary disability. I use voice when I'm on mobile. I can describe the problem, get a program generated, click run to verify it. 3. Maybe. Their feature rollouts feel more like what other companies do via unannounced A/B testing.
- skybrian 3y ago
  Good point on disabilities. I guess they're not working on that yet? Whether you can get away with doing things unannounced depends on how much attention the company gets. Some companies have a lot of journalists watching them and writing about everything they do, so when they start doing A/B testing there will be stories written about the new feature regardless. Better to put out some kind of announcement so the journalists write something more accurate? (This approach seems pretty common for Google.) Similarly, many game company can't really do beta testing without it leaking. OpenAI is in the spotlight. Hype will happen whether they want it or not.

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