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Path Of Exile Wiki has also moved about two years ago and GGG is providing hosting for a year now. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3292958 https:

by chx 3y ago

Path Of Exile Wiki has also moved about two years ago and GGG is providing hosting for a year now. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3292958 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3292958 https://www.poewiki.net/ https://www.poewiki.net/ The old fandom wiki is quite dead but it's impossible to get rid of it, alas.

ye-olde-sysrq 3y ago
OSRS also moved to oldschool.runescape.wiki and AIUI jagex pays for their hosting and provides some kind of content access to make updating/syncing easier. Plus they have RuneLite cooperating with crowdsourcing things like droptables and drop rates. (And of course mods often will outright tell them what certain droprates are or how they function).
- Fergusonb 3y ago
  It's also available via the osrs.wiki URL. Also, it's the highest quality wiki I've ever encountered.
- Reubachi 3y ago
  OSRS wiki isn't the best example. Jagex does not fund it, and is recommending they move to fandom/ad based support. Despite the OSRS wiki being legitimately the best website I use every day, it's leadership has been sounding the death knell every few months, always to an alarmingly quiet response. They have no money, have no revenue generator, and have a full staff that needs to be paid. The last post they put to the community mentioned moving back to fandom (crazy) or injecting ads at a pretty insane volume. So yes, fandom sucks. But also, a "normal" wiki takes expertise, and usually, compensation.
  - cookmeplox 3y ago
    I think you might have some of the facts wrong here - the post you're talking about never mentioned moving back to Fandom (nobody would ever entertain that option), and we ended up putting one pretty small ad in a pretty non-disruptive place, not "injecting ads at a pretty insane volume". In reality, we are doing fine on revenue, and more than covering the full-time labor costs by serving one ad to about 35% of users (really more like 20% after you account for ad blockers). It's still a bit icky compared to doing something donation-based or working directly with the studio, but neither of those would pay the bills. It turns out that a pretty small amount of advertising pays the bills just fine, which really puts into perspective how insane Fandom's monetization is. You can read more specifics/numbers in my post here: https://meta.weirdgloop.org/w/Forum:Mid-2023_business_update https://meta.weirdgloop.org/w/Forum:Mid-2023_business_update
iamacyborg 3y ago
Yeah, super appreciate the fact that GGG were able to help out on the hosting of that!
BigJono 3y ago
It's absolutely infuriating that Google can't fuck the old fandom wiki off the top of every search result despite it having completely outdated information and zero updates. You're telling me with all the fancy algorithms and their zillions of engineers they can't manage to notice that an entire subdomain hasn't had any updates to it's pages in 2 years and that every single person that clicks the search result ends up doing another search 20 seconds later?
- n6h6 3y ago
  They can probably do anything, but why would they when Fandom puts 3 gigabytes of their ads on every page of every wiki on their site? That's their bread and butter. You don't kill your livestock until you have to.

by chx 3y ago

ye-olde-sysrq 3y ago

OSRS also moved to oldschool.runescape.wiki and AIUI jagex pays for their hosting and provides some kind of content access to make updating/syncing easier. Plus they have RuneLite cooperating with crowdsourcing things like droptables and drop rates. (And of course mods often will outright tell them what certain droprates are or how they function).

Fergusonb 3y ago
It's also available via the osrs.wiki URL. Also, it's the highest quality wiki I've ever encountered.
Reubachi 3y ago
OSRS wiki isn't the best example. Jagex does not fund it, and is recommending they move to fandom/ad based support. Despite the OSRS wiki being legitimately the best website I use every day, it's leadership has been sounding the death knell every few months, always to an alarmingly quiet response. They have no money, have no revenue generator, and have a full staff that needs to be paid. The last post they put to the community mentioned moving back to fandom (crazy) or injecting ads at a pretty insane volume. So yes, fandom sucks. But also, a "normal" wiki takes expertise, and usually, compensation.
- cookmeplox 3y ago
  I think you might have some of the facts wrong here - the post you're talking about never mentioned moving back to Fandom (nobody would ever entertain that option), and we ended up putting one pretty small ad in a pretty non-disruptive place, not "injecting ads at a pretty insane volume". In reality, we are doing fine on revenue, and more than covering the full-time labor costs by serving one ad to about 35% of users (really more like 20% after you account for ad blockers). It's still a bit icky compared to doing something donation-based or working directly with the studio, but neither of those would pay the bills. It turns out that a pretty small amount of advertising pays the bills just fine, which really puts into perspective how insane Fandom's monetization is. You can read more specifics/numbers in my post here: https://meta.weirdgloop.org/w/Forum:Mid-2023_business_update https://meta.weirdgloop.org/w/Forum:Mid-2023_business_update

iamacyborg 3y ago

Yeah, super appreciate the fact that GGG were able to help out on the hosting of that!

BigJono 3y ago

It's absolutely infuriating that Google can't fuck the old fandom wiki off the top of every search result despite it having completely outdated information and zero updates. You're telling me with all the fancy algorithms and their zillions of engineers they can't manage to notice that an entire subdomain hasn't had any updates to it's pages in 2 years and that every single person that clicks the search result ends up doing another search 20 seconds later?

n6h6 3y ago
They can probably do anything, but why would they when Fandom puts 3 gigabytes of their ads on every page of every wiki on their site? That's their bread and butter. You don't kill your livestock until you have to.