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It's an attack on the human spirit in a way. The message is, "look, humanity IS truly awful." People walk away from it thinking, "Maybe everyone is evil." Now,
by flkenosad 3y ago
It's an attack on the human spirit in a way. The message is, "look, humanity IS truly awful." People walk away from it thinking, "Maybe everyone is evil." Now, does that serve a good purpose in this world? Seems a little satanic to me.
- marcinreal 3y agoI had a similar thought. It seems like an attack on morality, implying that there is no true morality or God-given conscience, only fear of consequences. > After exactly 6 hours, as planned, I stood up and started walking toward the audience. Everyone ran away, to escape an actual confrontation. Hard to judge from the wiki page, there are so little details, but this sounds fake and staged. I think there were less stunts back then so people were more trusting. At any rate, I get strong vibes of some kind of agenda here, and you're right that it's probably not a godly one.
- terryf 3y agoThe bounds of morality are a social construct. So, if you stage something that is purposefully meant to create an environment that seems to be outside of society, you will get behaviour that is not bound by regular social norms and morality. It is possible that saying this was the artist's goal, but who knows. But yes, there is no true morality. How can there be? In nature, there is only survival. A lion is happy to find some prey thas has had a stroke of bad luck and gotten stuck or hurt so it can't easily fight back. And the previous paragraph is not meant to say that the lion is evil. No, the lion simply is.
- tetris11 3y agoNature is not a model of morality though. It's a pretty linear system that offers very few choices that don't lead to death. We constructed a society where there are many more choices other than death, and in doing so defined a moral system.
- hnbad 3y ago> We constructed a society That's just nature. Unless you'd argue that bonobos have "defined a moral system" because they have "constructed a society" that is built on mutual cooperation, all humans have done is find increasingly abstract ways to cause harm to one another in order to work around the natural tendency towards cooperation. What makes human morality special is not how we support each other but how we hurt each other. And this is a fairly recent achievement even in our own species' historical timescale.
- navane 3y agoI'm assuming you don't have any free will and it's the combination of your genes and experiences that made you get to this position.
- hnbad 3y agoIs there a point to your statement? The existence or non-existence of free will has no discernable effect on reality (see the "philosophical zombies" thought experiment).
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- kmoser 3y agoOf course it was staged: it was performance art! It's not like she found herself wandering through the gallery and suddenly decided to subject herself to the whim of strangers. The event was planned ahead of time. Or do you mean the reactions of the audience sound fake/staged? In either case, what gives you that idea?
- mcphage 3y ago> It's an attack on the human spirit in a way. The message is, "look, humanity IS truly awful." It didn't have to be an attack on the human spirit. It was open to that, and open to something positive. But people didn't take the positive route. > People walk away from it thinking, "Maybe everyone is evil." Now, does that serve a good purpose in this world? Seems a little satanic to me. That's kinda weird, given that the belief that "everyone is evil" is one of the core ideas of Christianity. Well, everyone but one person, I suppose.
- flkenosad 3y ago> the belief that "everyone is evil" is one of the core ideas of Christianity. Huh, never heard that before.
- mcphage 3y agoUm. What has been your exposure to Christian theology?
- schoen 3y agoSome people would probably formulate the notion of original sin as "everyone is inclined to evil" or "everyone is prone to evil" or "everyone is vulnerable to committing evil" or "everyone is broken" or "everyone needs help against evil" rather than "everyone 'is' evil".
- raincole 3y agoPerhaps I'm just a cynical person, but the only reaction I had when I read about this for the first time was "look, humanity isn't that awful at all."
- demondemidi 3y agoSatanic? Where did that come from?
- suction 3y ago[dead]
- BizarroLand 3y agoMy assumption is that they mean Satanic as in "representative of the worst parts of humanity" and not necessarily as in "of the devil himself"
- demondemidi 3y agoHuh, I've never once thought of Satanic as representing that.
- xwdv 3y agoBeing in this world for this long, there’s one thing I know for sure: Evil and apathy are the defaults. True goodness is rare. If you find it, treasure it.
- synecdoche 3y agoThe line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. - Solzhenitsyn The sooner people realise this the better, imo.