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That’s because iPhones (and all other smartphones) use 2x2 mimo WiFi arrays. The only way you’ll get > 1 GBPS on WiFi is on a device with 3x3 or 4x4 mimo WiFi.

That’s because iPhones (and all other smartphones) use 2x2 mimo WiFi arrays. The only way you’ll get > 1 GBPS on WiFi is on a device with 3x3 or 4x4 mimo WiFi. 2x2 is used because it’s less power intensive and takes up less physical space in the device.

standing_user 3y ago
Are there smartphones with 3x3 or 4x4 mimo wifi?
- supertrope 3y ago
  No.
throw0101c 3y ago
> The only way you’ll get > 1 GBPS on WiFi is on a device with 3x3 or 4x4 mimo WiFi. At 160 MHz 802.11ax (5 GHz) should be able to get 1200 Mbps at the PHY layer with a single spatial stream: * https://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/so/ReferenceGuide_80211ax.pdf https://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/so/ReferenceGuide_80211... Two streams gets you 2400 Mbps (PHY).
- dboreham 3y ago
  And you have to divide the PHY symbol rate by 4 to get the real world TCP throughout achievable.
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - zamadatix 3y ago
    There is some loss but you shouldn't be getting anything near 4 unless something is very wrong with your wireless environment. Even a flat half is pretty bad. In a hospital environment our managed clients (i.e. laptops, phones, wireless desktops) in the 5 GHz space would reach more near ~80% theoretical.
- qwertywert_ 3y ago
  https://mcsindex.com/ https://mcsindex.com/ 1200 is for 2x2 at 80MHz which is the max theoretical an Iphone can get. Also other comment is wrong about dividing by 4, usually can expect 0.66 of max phy rate. So just under 1Gbps.
  - zamadatix 3y ago
    With the iPad and MacBook Apple added 160 MHz support for 6E only (not on 5 GHz still, which makes sense). Did they really not do that with the new iPhone 15 Pro as well? A bit disappointing really.
- r00fus 3y ago
  2400Mbps = 300 MB (megabytes)/s x2 = 600MB/s which is pretty close to the number the OP was stating. So to get over 1GB/s you need more than 2x2, right?
  - zamadatix 3y ago
    I supposed that depends if you interpret GBPS as someone holding shift or someone really meaning to express network speeds in bytes and just happens to capitalize the rest too. But yeah, to get over 1 GB/s (or 8 Gbps) you'd need more than a 2x2 setup even with the massive 320 MHz channels Wi-Fi 7 is going to bring.
- brigade 3y ago
  Both Eero and Apple only support 160 MHz channels in 6 GHz

standing_user 3y ago

Are there smartphones with 3x3 or 4x4 mimo wifi?

supertrope 3y ago
No.

throw0101c 3y ago

> The only way you’ll get > 1 GBPS on WiFi is on a device with 3x3 or 4x4 mimo WiFi. At 160 MHz 802.11ax (5 GHz) should be able to get 1200 Mbps at the PHY layer with a single spatial stream: * https://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/so/ReferenceGuide_80211ax.pdf https://www.arubanetworks.com/assets/so/ReferenceGuide_80211... Two streams gets you 2400 Mbps (PHY).

dboreham 3y ago
And you have to divide the PHY symbol rate by 4 to get the real world TCP throughout achievable.
- deleted 3y ago
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- zamadatix 3y ago
  There is some loss but you shouldn't be getting anything near 4 unless something is very wrong with your wireless environment. Even a flat half is pretty bad. In a hospital environment our managed clients (i.e. laptops, phones, wireless desktops) in the 5 GHz space would reach more near ~80% theoretical.
qwertywert_ 3y ago
https://mcsindex.com/ https://mcsindex.com/ 1200 is for 2x2 at 80MHz which is the max theoretical an Iphone can get. Also other comment is wrong about dividing by 4, usually can expect 0.66 of max phy rate. So just under 1Gbps.
- zamadatix 3y ago
  With the iPad and MacBook Apple added 160 MHz support for 6E only (not on 5 GHz still, which makes sense). Did they really not do that with the new iPhone 15 Pro as well? A bit disappointing really.
r00fus 3y ago
2400Mbps = 300 MB (megabytes)/s x2 = 600MB/s which is pretty close to the number the OP was stating. So to get over 1GB/s you need more than 2x2, right?
- zamadatix 3y ago
  I supposed that depends if you interpret GBPS as someone holding shift or someone really meaning to express network speeds in bytes and just happens to capitalize the rest too. But yeah, to get over 1 GB/s (or 8 Gbps) you'd need more than a 2x2 setup even with the massive 320 MHz channels Wi-Fi 7 is going to bring.
brigade 3y ago
Both Eero and Apple only support 160 MHz channels in 6 GHz