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The funny thing is I live in Europe (UK) too and I can tell you most of these countries are like an old person in pain waiting to die. The entire continent just

The funny thing is I live in Europe (UK) too and I can tell you most of these countries are like an old person in pain waiting to die. The entire continent just leeches of the good will and work done by their ancestors like a bunch of trust fund kids (lol). We don't make anything. You basically work most of the year for the government (50%+ tax + VAT (20%) + forced pension contributions & the sweet sweet 10% inflation) to be forced into sub par services. > Universal Healthcare The NHS sucks. Nurses hate it. Doctors hate it. Patients despise it. Its the second biggest line item in our budget, we cant afford it. The cautionary tale for Americans is despite this no political will dare speak against it, its political suicide. NHS has become healthcare, healthcare=NHS. The conservative party will just use Labours crazy budget proposal from last election cycle and the labour party will come up with an even crazier budget proposal. Btw this is not an outsider view, my entire family (except me) works for the NHS. My doctor friend described his career as basically indentured servitude. My mum use to tell me to lie to my GPs and pretend like I'm dying or I wont get treated. > Education Education is the same, high school was basically forced day care where they turn you into obedient little government slaves. Btw forced is not an exaggeration, parents will go to jail if they take kids out of high school (public indoctrination camps). > Productivity I have no idea who comes up with the productivity in numbers but I refuse to 1984 this, we don't make anything in Europe anymore. Even the cars have semiconductors and parts from Asia. As I look around I'm using an american macbook, asian mouse, american airpods, asian monitor, asian tv, american nicotine pouch, american iphone, asian coffee cup, asian notebook, american coffee, asian water filter, asian glasses, asian office chair, asian wallet, asian clothes, asian washing machine & drier, asian fridge, asian microwave oven etc. All the people I grew up with works in the services industry. Nobody makes stuff here. P.S. I worked as a bartender before and I've done worse (temperature controlled warehouses). Any man (or lady) making an honest living is honourable and respectable. That said, the type of people who worked in these places are like chimps compared to these people I've "name dropped". Its really hard to get this point across (esp to someone like you), the difference isn't linear. These peoples speak almost different languages. I know this at an intimate level, I grew up near what used to be the poorest area of the UK. Whenever I'm back home from my world, I have to literally change the way I speak when I hang out with my friends there. Its not just IQ or EQ either btw, its more. Like a lot more. The sheer volume of perspectives and level of competence.. its really hard to put into words. Also I've never raid Ayn Rand nor am I a libertarian utopian, thats just being an opposite you, different sides of the same coin. Both you guys have massive reality distortions.

louwrentius 3y ago
I have no idea who comes up with the productivity in numbers but I refuse to 1984 this, we don't make anything in Europe anymore. Even the cars have semiconductors and parts from Asia. Those numbers 100% prove you wrong yet you emotionally brush them aside and you stick to your fantasy that has something to do with only production of physical goods being real and anything else is not real. That's just unfounded opinion. I have no respect for this. > Its not just IQ or EQ either btw, its more. Like a lot more. The sheer volume of perspectives and level of competence.. its really hard to put into words. I'm not sure I find you competent at being able to make such an assessment, as I observe so much unfounded emotional adherence to some billionaires (ubermenschen) and the adoration of America + production of physical goods. The 'chimps' remark basically makes you sound like you believe in Eugenics. Yet you fail to see the bigger contest, how many people never have the opportunities the rich people have, starting with who their parents are and how much money they have. Why do you do this to yourself, why adore a person like Elon Musk, who is a walking string of lies and lawsuits + claiming work of others (Tesla) for himself and who is running 'Twitter' into the ground. And most, if not all of his companies are funded by government funding or due to other companies wanting to offset emissions. Tesla isn't doing great. And this is just the start. The UK is not Europe (anymore). The UK is indeed destroying itself by choosing brexit and voting for a right-wing government that is hellbent on destroying all social services and to favour the rich. You project that stuff on Europe as a whole, but nothing could be further from the truth. What is happening with the NHS is the same story: your Bilionaire PM is destroying NHS, why you guys aren't in the streets preparing a 'french revolution' is not clear to me. Same for Education. > I have no idea who comes up with the productivity in numbers but I refuse to 1984 this, we don't make anything in Europe anymore. Even the cars have semiconductors and parts from Asia. If you contest numbers like that because it doesn't fit your own negative narrative, that's not very rational now is it? Asian Asian Asian: because the billionaire owners found cheap slave labour in Asia at the expense of local workers. Know who to blame. Your favourite pals the billionaires.
- pc_edwin 3y ago
  > Those numbers 100% prove you wrong. Not it doesn't. Its mostly tax/banking havens and oil/gas rich countries. The only exception to the rule is US lol. > Your adoration of billionaires and your materialistic values cloud your judgement. You just called the richest, most entrepreneurial and ingenuitive man of our generation a hack. Mind you, this is the same guy your kin worshipped like 2 seconds ago. The guy continually made bold bets, got ridiculed by everyone and was proven right. The Twitter saga being the latest example, the platform was meant implode any minute now like a year ago. You may disagree with my claims but at the very least I try to present an objective view of the world grounded in experience and facts. > Can you not see that its not an even playing field? The playing field is as even and fair as its ever been. This is not an opinion, its a fact and the difference is uncanny. Does this mean why shouldn't strive to make it even more fair, no go on ahead, all the power to you. > UK is not Europe which is doing great. The entire union is propped up by Germany (& France). The ECB has no ammunition left. Italy & Spain are about to have a pensions nuclear explosion. France temporarily delayed it at a great cost. Its really not looking good for Europe. > Billionaires found slaves in Asia How can you not see the childishness of your worldview? Its reads like a badly written bedtime story. Big bad fat cat monsters vs honest bartender lady who was destined for more! I urge you, try to get a better picture of the world. I suggest you look into: - Pareto principle & distribution - Cantillon effect - Any Steve Jobs or Elon Musk biography - History from Mesopotamia to now, the more detailed the better. - Read up on communism/socialism/capitlaism, use neutral* sources if you must but actually dive in. At the very least, you'll be able to make better arguments for your cause. > Conclusion I hope one day you will realise that the difference between a guy who spars with his buddies vs Khabib Nurmagomedov isn't linear. There are people in all walks of life (not just business) where the difference between the average vs the great is truly mind boggling. Its a kind of feeling you get where you go "oh there a levels to this shut!"!. A world that doesn't reward these freaks of nature justly, deserves to burn to the ground. People like Bob Iger or Satya Nadella can retire multiple times over, instead the choose to work 70 hour weeks and its not rote repetitive stuff either, its 4d chess stuff with constant context switching. I can really keep going here but its just so baffling to me that there people like you in this world (especially HN). I said it before, I don't think its IQ, if you here it means you atleast smart enough. There is something deeply rotten about a society that cannot recognise greatness.

louwrentius 3y ago

I have no idea who comes up with the productivity in numbers but I refuse to 1984 this, we don't make anything in Europe anymore. Even the cars have semiconductors and parts from Asia. Those numbers 100% prove you wrong yet you emotionally brush them aside and you stick to your fantasy that has something to do with only production of physical goods being real and anything else is not real. That's just unfounded opinion. I have no respect for this. > Its not just IQ or EQ either btw, its more. Like a lot more. The sheer volume of perspectives and level of competence.. its really hard to put into words. I'm not sure I find you competent at being able to make such an assessment, as I observe so much unfounded emotional adherence to some billionaires (ubermenschen) and the adoration of America + production of physical goods. The 'chimps' remark basically makes you sound like you believe in Eugenics. Yet you fail to see the bigger contest, how many people never have the opportunities the rich people have, starting with who their parents are and how much money they have. Why do you do this to yourself, why adore a person like Elon Musk, who is a walking string of lies and lawsuits + claiming work of others (Tesla) for himself and who is running 'Twitter' into the ground. And most, if not all of his companies are funded by government funding or due to other companies wanting to offset emissions. Tesla isn't doing great. And this is just the start. The UK is not Europe (anymore). The UK is indeed destroying itself by choosing brexit and voting for a right-wing government that is hellbent on destroying all social services and to favour the rich. You project that stuff on Europe as a whole, but nothing could be further from the truth. What is happening with the NHS is the same story: your Bilionaire PM is destroying NHS, why you guys aren't in the streets preparing a 'french revolution' is not clear to me. Same for Education. > I have no idea who comes up with the productivity in numbers but I refuse to 1984 this, we don't make anything in Europe anymore. Even the cars have semiconductors and parts from Asia. If you contest numbers like that because it doesn't fit your own negative narrative, that's not very rational now is it? Asian Asian Asian: because the billionaire owners found cheap slave labour in Asia at the expense of local workers. Know who to blame. Your favourite pals the billionaires.

pc_edwin 3y ago
> Those numbers 100% prove you wrong. Not it doesn't. Its mostly tax/banking havens and oil/gas rich countries. The only exception to the rule is US lol. > Your adoration of billionaires and your materialistic values cloud your judgement. You just called the richest, most entrepreneurial and ingenuitive man of our generation a hack. Mind you, this is the same guy your kin worshipped like 2 seconds ago. The guy continually made bold bets, got ridiculed by everyone and was proven right. The Twitter saga being the latest example, the platform was meant implode any minute now like a year ago. You may disagree with my claims but at the very least I try to present an objective view of the world grounded in experience and facts. > Can you not see that its not an even playing field? The playing field is as even and fair as its ever been. This is not an opinion, its a fact and the difference is uncanny. Does this mean why shouldn't strive to make it even more fair, no go on ahead, all the power to you. > UK is not Europe which is doing great. The entire union is propped up by Germany (& France). The ECB has no ammunition left. Italy & Spain are about to have a pensions nuclear explosion. France temporarily delayed it at a great cost. Its really not looking good for Europe. > Billionaires found slaves in Asia How can you not see the childishness of your worldview? Its reads like a badly written bedtime story. Big bad fat cat monsters vs honest bartender lady who was destined for more! I urge you, try to get a better picture of the world. I suggest you look into: - Pareto principle & distribution - Cantillon effect - Any Steve Jobs or Elon Musk biography - History from Mesopotamia to now, the more detailed the better. - Read up on communism/socialism/capitlaism, use neutral* sources if you must but actually dive in. At the very least, you'll be able to make better arguments for your cause. > Conclusion I hope one day you will realise that the difference between a guy who spars with his buddies vs Khabib Nurmagomedov isn't linear. There are people in all walks of life (not just business) where the difference between the average vs the great is truly mind boggling. Its a kind of feeling you get where you go "oh there a levels to this shut!"!. A world that doesn't reward these freaks of nature justly, deserves to burn to the ground. People like Bob Iger or Satya Nadella can retire multiple times over, instead the choose to work 70 hour weeks and its not rote repetitive stuff either, its 4d chess stuff with constant context switching. I can really keep going here but its just so baffling to me that there people like you in this world (especially HN). I said it before, I don't think its IQ, if you here it means you atleast smart enough. There is something deeply rotten about a society that cannot recognise greatness.