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That seems like horrible "art" and the it only has shock value. >When the gallery announced the work was over, and Abramović began to move again, she said the

That seems like horrible "art" and the it only has shock value. >When the gallery announced the work was over, and Abramović began to move again, she said the audience left, unable to face her as a person.[9] More like the audience left because they had other things to do and she was more interesting as an object than as a person.

numbsafari 3y ago
Either interpretation, it’s a profound statement about our (lack of?) shared humanity.
egeozcan 3y ago
> she was more interesting as an object than as a person This as an excuse would describe the audience even more horribly.
- deleted 3y ago
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tgv 3y ago
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nabla9 3y ago
"Art is anything you can get away with" – Marshall McLuhan Many people take the saying as negative, but McLuhan said it from deep respect for art. Art is cultural product and 'getting away with' is cultural process related to the audience. Horror in this case is how art presents realities of humanity. ps. Andy Warhol quoted McLuhan and made the saying famous, but did not originate the quote.
- r4ltman 3y ago
  Source?
  - nabla9 3y ago
    Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man (1964) Marshall McLuhan, Lewis H. Lapham
capableweb 3y ago
> That seems like horrible "art" and the it only has shock value. It could have been nothing, if none of the audience would have dared to touch her. But then the audience did make it into "shock value" by treating her the way they treated her. They didn't have to, but seems people naturally gravitated that way.
- coolThingsFirst 3y ago
  Right, are you sure it was unscripted? I'm just saying I'd be totally aware it's an art exhibit and not do anything stupid because of potential hidden cameras. Seems the "result" of the experiment is conveniently implying that humans by nature are evil which is just not true.
  - capableweb 3y ago
    Unless there is some proof otherwise, I'm gonna assume it was genuine performance art. Taking what the author says at face value, the goal was "See what the public would do to a human if given tools and unrestricted access/allowance for 6 hours", and the conclusion is up to the audience and future viewers/readers, rather than the author trying to steer people into some predefined conclusion. One way you could see it is "all humans are inherently evil" but that's not the way I see it, as the audience seems to eventually be split up in one "nice" group trying to stop the "not nice" group from acting out.
    - coolThingsFirst 3y ago
      How would you convince someone that they had unrestricted access to a human being to do whatever they pleased with though? Seems almost impossible.
      - capableweb 3y ago
        Read the linked article and maybe watch https://vimeo.com/71952791 https://vimeo.com/71952791 so you know what actually happened in the event. In this case, you write a note and let people do whatever. Once you see someone that cutting their skin is OK, I'm pretty sure you'd feel OK with whatever you had in mind.
bowsamic 3y ago
Do you not think it's interesting that there was "shock" at all?
praptak 3y ago
There is more than shock value though. Note that the artist herself did not do anything shocking. Without the public she'd just sit there for 6 hours and probably get bored.

numbsafari 3y ago

Either interpretation, it’s a profound statement about our (lack of?) shared humanity.

egeozcan 3y ago

> she was more interesting as an object than as a person This as an excuse would describe the audience even more horribly.

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tgv 3y ago

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nabla9 3y ago

"Art is anything you can get away with" – Marshall McLuhan Many people take the saying as negative, but McLuhan said it from deep respect for art. Art is cultural product and 'getting away with' is cultural process related to the audience. Horror in this case is how art presents realities of humanity. ps. Andy Warhol quoted McLuhan and made the saying famous, but did not originate the quote.

r4ltman 3y ago
Source?
- nabla9 3y ago
  Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man (1964) Marshall McLuhan, Lewis H. Lapham

capableweb 3y ago

> That seems like horrible "art" and the it only has shock value. It could have been nothing, if none of the audience would have dared to touch her. But then the audience did make it into "shock value" by treating her the way they treated her. They didn't have to, but seems people naturally gravitated that way.

coolThingsFirst 3y ago
Right, are you sure it was unscripted? I'm just saying I'd be totally aware it's an art exhibit and not do anything stupid because of potential hidden cameras. Seems the "result" of the experiment is conveniently implying that humans by nature are evil which is just not true.
- capableweb 3y ago
  Unless there is some proof otherwise, I'm gonna assume it was genuine performance art. Taking what the author says at face value, the goal was "See what the public would do to a human if given tools and unrestricted access/allowance for 6 hours", and the conclusion is up to the audience and future viewers/readers, rather than the author trying to steer people into some predefined conclusion. One way you could see it is "all humans are inherently evil" but that's not the way I see it, as the audience seems to eventually be split up in one "nice" group trying to stop the "not nice" group from acting out.
  - coolThingsFirst 3y ago
    How would you convince someone that they had unrestricted access to a human being to do whatever they pleased with though? Seems almost impossible.
    - capableweb 3y ago
      Read the linked article and maybe watch https://vimeo.com/71952791 https://vimeo.com/71952791 so you know what actually happened in the event. In this case, you write a note and let people do whatever. Once you see someone that cutting their skin is OK, I'm pretty sure you'd feel OK with whatever you had in mind.

bowsamic 3y ago

Do you not think it's interesting that there was "shock" at all?

praptak 3y ago

There is more than shock value though. Note that the artist herself did not do anything shocking. Without the public she'd just sit there for 6 hours and probably get bored.