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Another option is that this doesn't replace the student's work, but the teacher's. The single greatest use I have found for ChatGPT is in educating myself on va

by scop 3y ago

Another option is that this doesn't replace the student's work, but the teacher's. The single greatest use I have found for ChatGPT is in educating myself on various topics, hosting a socratic seminar where I am questioning ChatGPT in order to learn about X. Of course this could radically change a student's ability to generate homework etc, but this could also radically change how the student learns in the first place. To me, online school could become much more than they are now through AI-assisted tutoring. I can also see a future where "schooling" becomes much more decentralized than it is now and where students are self-selecting curriculum, methods, etc to give students ownership and a sense of control over their work so that they don't just look at it as "busywork".

random_cynic 3y ago
That's the only sane option. The other options suggested in previous comments are not really options but rather trying to use a band-aid to hold together a dam that has already been breached.
plutoh28 3y ago
Absolutely ChatGPT is a great learning tool if in the right hands. The issue is that students with a genuine interest in learning are a minority. The majority would rather use ChatGPT to cheat through their class work and get an easy A rather then exhaust the effort to chat and learn for their own sake.
- logicchains 3y ago
  >The majority would rather use ChatGPT to cheat through their class work and get an easy A rather then exhaust the effort to chat and learn for their own sake. Just have 100% of the mark come from in-person exams, as many subjects already do. Students can cheat all they want on assignments, but the only thing it's hurting is their exam score.
istjohn 3y ago
I agree, but typical GPT use is actually the opposite of the traditional Socratic mode in which the teacher uses questions to guide the student to understanding. But I wonder how it would do if it was prompted to use the Socratic method.
- lucubratory 3y ago
  Duolingo is experimenting with a GPT-4 fine tune/wrapper which makes it act as a Socratic method teacher.
- singularity2001 3y ago
  I tried to teach it the Socratic method. It took some long prompt engineering, but finally it worked. BUT what I realized was that it was always lacking the bigger picture, an agenda of what it wants to teach me.

by scop 3y ago

random_cynic 3y ago

That's the only sane option. The other options suggested in previous comments are not really options but rather trying to use a band-aid to hold together a dam that has already been breached.

plutoh28 3y ago

Absolutely ChatGPT is a great learning tool if in the right hands. The issue is that students with a genuine interest in learning are a minority. The majority would rather use ChatGPT to cheat through their class work and get an easy A rather then exhaust the effort to chat and learn for their own sake.

logicchains 3y ago
>The majority would rather use ChatGPT to cheat through their class work and get an easy A rather then exhaust the effort to chat and learn for their own sake. Just have 100% of the mark come from in-person exams, as many subjects already do. Students can cheat all they want on assignments, but the only thing it's hurting is their exam score.

istjohn 3y ago

I agree, but typical GPT use is actually the opposite of the traditional Socratic mode in which the teacher uses questions to guide the student to understanding. But I wonder how it would do if it was prompted to use the Socratic method.

lucubratory 3y ago
Duolingo is experimenting with a GPT-4 fine tune/wrapper which makes it act as a Socratic method teacher.
singularity2001 3y ago
I tried to teach it the Socratic method. It took some long prompt engineering, but finally it worked. BUT what I realized was that it was always lacking the bigger picture, an agenda of what it wants to teach me.