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fwiw the only piece of AI art that has given me the sense of awe and beauty that art you'd find in a museum gives me was that spiral town image https://twitter.

fwiw the only piece of AI art that has given me the sense of awe and beauty that art you'd find in a museum gives me was that spiral town image https://twitter.com/MrUgleh/status/1705316060201681313 https://twitter.com/MrUgleh/status/1705316060201681313, which is something you couldn't have really made without AI. But that was only interesting because of the unique human generated idea behind it which was the encoding of a geometric pattern within a scene. Most AI art is just generic garbage that you scroll past immediately and doesn't offer you anything. We're gonna have to do something to stop the biggest crisis in meaning ever that comes out of this eventually though. Eventually no one will be of any economic value to society. Maybe just put someone in an ultra realistic simulation to give them artificial meaning.

notamy 3y ago
> which is something you couldn't have really made without AI Serious question: Why not? > Eventually no one will be of any economic value to society. People have value outside of economics — I’m sure you know — and it makes me so sad that we as a society? seem to only care about the money in the end.
- adroniser 3y ago
  I think you're right it could have been created without AI. I'm trying to think of the right way to say it. Maybe it wouldn't have been created without AI? Or AI has made it so simple to express this idea that the idea has been expressed? Or just the idea of inpainting is what has brought this idea forward. Yes of course people have value outside of economics that's why I said economics and not value in general. I think it's quite sad as a society we've moved towards a value system which is basically what is good for the economy is good, and if you earn more money you are better. In the past most people were religious and that gave them meaning. Religion is in decline now but I think people are just replacing it with worshipping the progression of technology basically. For the last 100 years there's always been a clear direction to move in to progress technology, and we haven't really had to think very hard. That's what AI is going to bring an end to I think and I have no idea what we are going to do.
  - notamy 3y ago
    > In the past most people were religious and that gave them meaning. Religion is in decline now but I think people are just replacing it with worshipping the progression of technology basically. For the last 100 years there's always been a clear direction to move in to progress technology, and we haven't really had to think very hard. That's what AI is going to bring an end to I think and I have no idea what we are going to do. Fascinating thought. Technology as the new religion is smth I’ll have to think about more.
    - ChatGTP 3y ago
      Watch some clips from Ray Kurzweil, I find his visions to be basically indistinguishable from what I've read in the bible and in other religions. He talks about immortality, resurrection, digital afterlife. Omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient super intelligence, the whole shebang. He even claims that soon, we'll all be Gods, millions of times more intelligent then we are today. In some ways, I actually find his views and beliefs a little disturbing. I recently saw an "AI safety discussion" featuring Gregg Brockman from OpenAI who was referencing Kurzeil. It does seem like the religion has maybe caught on. To what extent Brock believes in it, I'm not sure but I can't help feeling that this belief in modern tech might one day seem like how we thought of the pyramids granting eternal life, or mercury, or any other seemingly incredible thing discovery / phenomena of the time. That is to say, the brain is a fickle beast and is easily amused and is just as easily bored. While we're in the situation we fee we're on the doorstep of immortality, eternal greatness, but maybe we're no where near that. I'm open minded about it all, but it's hard to deny the parallels between the past beliefs and the present. Maybe this time it is different? Who knows.

notamy 3y ago

> which is something you couldn't have really made without AI Serious question: Why not? > Eventually no one will be of any economic value to society. People have value outside of economics — I’m sure you know — and it makes me so sad that we as a society? seem to only care about the money in the end.

adroniser 3y ago
I think you're right it could have been created without AI. I'm trying to think of the right way to say it. Maybe it wouldn't have been created without AI? Or AI has made it so simple to express this idea that the idea has been expressed? Or just the idea of inpainting is what has brought this idea forward. Yes of course people have value outside of economics that's why I said economics and not value in general. I think it's quite sad as a society we've moved towards a value system which is basically what is good for the economy is good, and if you earn more money you are better. In the past most people were religious and that gave them meaning. Religion is in decline now but I think people are just replacing it with worshipping the progression of technology basically. For the last 100 years there's always been a clear direction to move in to progress technology, and we haven't really had to think very hard. That's what AI is going to bring an end to I think and I have no idea what we are going to do.
- notamy 3y ago
  > In the past most people were religious and that gave them meaning. Religion is in decline now but I think people are just replacing it with worshipping the progression of technology basically. For the last 100 years there's always been a clear direction to move in to progress technology, and we haven't really had to think very hard. That's what AI is going to bring an end to I think and I have no idea what we are going to do. Fascinating thought. Technology as the new religion is smth I’ll have to think about more.
  - ChatGTP 3y ago
    Watch some clips from Ray Kurzweil, I find his visions to be basically indistinguishable from what I've read in the bible and in other religions. He talks about immortality, resurrection, digital afterlife. Omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient super intelligence, the whole shebang. He even claims that soon, we'll all be Gods, millions of times more intelligent then we are today. In some ways, I actually find his views and beliefs a little disturbing. I recently saw an "AI safety discussion" featuring Gregg Brockman from OpenAI who was referencing Kurzeil. It does seem like the religion has maybe caught on. To what extent Brock believes in it, I'm not sure but I can't help feeling that this belief in modern tech might one day seem like how we thought of the pyramids granting eternal life, or mercury, or any other seemingly incredible thing discovery / phenomena of the time. That is to say, the brain is a fickle beast and is easily amused and is just as easily bored. While we're in the situation we fee we're on the doorstep of immortality, eternal greatness, but maybe we're no where near that. I'm open minded about it all, but it's hard to deny the parallels between the past beliefs and the present. Maybe this time it is different? Who knows.