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I know a handful of people who quit their bigtech jobs since covid (because of RTO or other post-covid changes), and they all found it hard to find comparable j

I know a handful of people who quit their bigtech jobs since covid (because of RTO or other post-covid changes), and they all found it hard to find comparable jobs elsewhere. And while they won't openly say it, I think every one of them regrets it.

88913527 3y ago
Are they missing the money or the environment? It could be both, but bigtech compensation is one of the few places left to create a solid balance sheet for a household, and that's first and foremost what bigtech offers to its employees.
- schnebbau 3y ago
  Both I think. I know they all took huge comp cuts. Their new roles don't offer any stock which I think they all undervalued immensely. Plus workload and employer expectations/responsibilities increased.
prakhar897 3y ago
It's a mixed bag really. I quit Amazon few months back. The pay was nice but the workload, stress and especially the politics was too much for me. I'm thankful that I quit early, since if I had gotten a promo, my family would never let me quit. nobody pays even near that much in India. Nowadays I think about how much wealthy I could've been. But I'm also happy not doing astronomical amount of work. Grass is always greener on the other side. :)
throw1234651234 3y ago
Ohio tech here - juniors that leave for FAANG make more than architects in Ohio when counting total comp. Might as well get into the numbers: $180,000 - Amazon junior (total comp) $120,000 - 170,000 (usually straight salary) - Ohio architect with 20 years of experience It's a very big difference. Obviously a whole different conversation when getting to L5 or whatever. We in the flyovers like to lie to ourselves that "it's not that different" and that "the COL balances it out", but the answer is no, it really doesn't. Also, many of us work 12 hour days and manage a bunch of stuff outside of our role - managing juniors, hiring, helping marketing, etc, etc. A lot wonder if it's easier to be an FTE at FAANG because that seems like it might be "just do YOUR job". P.S. I do believe there isn't a huge skill gap a lot of the time, more of what people want to do. Some people here have been at FAANG, I have seen a lot go to FAANG, and so on. It is probably a higher average at FAANG though, with the whole bell curve shifted right a bit. PSS If anyone has personal experience going from one of these to the other, let us know how it went for you. It seems pretty rare since there is the pay cut on one side and the leetcode hard interviews and going to the office on the other + moving and commuting 40 minutes+ every day.
red-iron-pine 3y ago
Its hard to find the same compensation, but I absolutely do not regret it. No commute, less stress, lower tax brackets and cost of living, ditched one of my cars (i.e. no maintenance, no insurance, no car tax), plus way more free time. Not eating out as much and being able to cook at home has saved me a ton of money and had a net health benefit -- less calories, and less booze, too.

88913527 3y ago

Are they missing the money or the environment? It could be both, but bigtech compensation is one of the few places left to create a solid balance sheet for a household, and that's first and foremost what bigtech offers to its employees.

schnebbau 3y ago
Both I think. I know they all took huge comp cuts. Their new roles don't offer any stock which I think they all undervalued immensely. Plus workload and employer expectations/responsibilities increased.

prakhar897 3y ago

It's a mixed bag really. I quit Amazon few months back. The pay was nice but the workload, stress and especially the politics was too much for me. I'm thankful that I quit early, since if I had gotten a promo, my family would never let me quit. nobody pays even near that much in India. Nowadays I think about how much wealthy I could've been. But I'm also happy not doing astronomical amount of work. Grass is always greener on the other side. :)

throw1234651234 3y ago

Ohio tech here - juniors that leave for FAANG make more than architects in Ohio when counting total comp. Might as well get into the numbers: $180,000 - Amazon junior (total comp) $120,000 - 170,000 (usually straight salary) - Ohio architect with 20 years of experience It's a very big difference. Obviously a whole different conversation when getting to L5 or whatever. We in the flyovers like to lie to ourselves that "it's not that different" and that "the COL balances it out", but the answer is no, it really doesn't. Also, many of us work 12 hour days and manage a bunch of stuff outside of our role - managing juniors, hiring, helping marketing, etc, etc. A lot wonder if it's easier to be an FTE at FAANG because that seems like it might be "just do YOUR job". P.S. I do believe there isn't a huge skill gap a lot of the time, more of what people want to do. Some people here have been at FAANG, I have seen a lot go to FAANG, and so on. It is probably a higher average at FAANG though, with the whole bell curve shifted right a bit. PSS If anyone has personal experience going from one of these to the other, let us know how it went for you. It seems pretty rare since there is the pay cut on one side and the leetcode hard interviews and going to the office on the other + moving and commuting 40 minutes+ every day.

red-iron-pine 3y ago

Its hard to find the same compensation, but I absolutely do not regret it. No commute, less stress, lower tax brackets and cost of living, ditched one of my cars (i.e. no maintenance, no insurance, no car tax), plus way more free time. Not eating out as much and being able to cook at home has saved me a ton of money and had a net health benefit -- less calories, and less booze, too.