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At least for people who like to come to the office (like me), this is even worse than working from home. You still spend lots of times in meetings in front of

by cgeier 3y ago

At least for people who like to come to the office (like me), this is even worse than working from home. You still spend lots of times in meetings in front of your computer, can't take those meetings in person, often can't solve quick issues on the way to lunch, and can't socialize with the people you are working with (which leads to getting to know people much quicker which IMHO makes working with people a lot easier).

tedivm 3y ago
That's weird because I work remotely, socialize with my colleagues all the time, regularly solve problems for them in quick meetings, and generally don't encounter any of the concerns you do. Companies with bad cultures are going to have bad times regardless, culture definitely has to be managed. It is possible to build a remote or hybrid culture that works though.
- aflag 3y ago
  How do you socialise? Do you have a zoom call with them over lunch when everyone eats together? If you need to draw something in a piece of paper to explain a concept or how a function behaves, how do you do that? Do you share your screen and draw everything with your mouse? If you want to show someone something you're writing do you start a call and share your screen with them? Then how do you and they point to stuff? What if they want to type in something? Do they just dictate? It's obviously all doable, but some people find that setup impersonal and annoying. Meanwhile, I have no trouble going to the office. It's nice to get out of the house, walk a bit. See other people going to work as well in the public transport. It all feels good to me.
walls 3y ago
So many people eager to return to office seem to have confused work with their social life.
- aflag 3y ago
  Work is part of social life. Your whole social life doesn't have to revolve around your best friend or wife or whatever people you chose. Living and socialising with people you didn't choose is important.

by cgeier 3y ago

tedivm 3y ago

That's weird because I work remotely, socialize with my colleagues all the time, regularly solve problems for them in quick meetings, and generally don't encounter any of the concerns you do. Companies with bad cultures are going to have bad times regardless, culture definitely has to be managed. It is possible to build a remote or hybrid culture that works though.

aflag 3y ago
How do you socialise? Do you have a zoom call with them over lunch when everyone eats together? If you need to draw something in a piece of paper to explain a concept or how a function behaves, how do you do that? Do you share your screen and draw everything with your mouse? If you want to show someone something you're writing do you start a call and share your screen with them? Then how do you and they point to stuff? What if they want to type in something? Do they just dictate? It's obviously all doable, but some people find that setup impersonal and annoying. Meanwhile, I have no trouble going to the office. It's nice to get out of the house, walk a bit. See other people going to work as well in the public transport. It all feels good to me.

walls 3y ago

So many people eager to return to office seem to have confused work with their social life.

aflag 3y ago
Work is part of social life. Your whole social life doesn't have to revolve around your best friend or wife or whatever people you chose. Living and socialising with people you didn't choose is important.