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It really isn't just the boomers. It is landowners/homeowners of many different generations. The whole "blame the boomers" thing plays into the hands of the lan

It really isn't just the boomers. It is landowners/homeowners of many different generations. The whole "blame the boomers" thing plays into the hands of the landowners shaking down the rest of us. Don't fall for it and focus on the actual problems not attacking a group.

roenxi 3y ago
I certainly agree with you, it is more about how people behave than anything else. Nevertheless, if we look at how the Boomers acted, they: - Presided over a bunch of aggressive and needless wars. - Led the slow decay of the US economy, weighed down with regulation, struggling to build things and stuck in a money printing spiral. - Have done a terrible job of letting up the political reins to new blood, and generally allowed liberty to backslide in some stunning and catastrophic ways (pointing particularly at the monetary system that has been consistently getting more repressive and the surveillance state). In some sense it is impressive that they only got a few things wrong, as a generation there was some amazing technological work done. But it is hard to recover from political and economic mistakes that profound. There isn't enough real wealth generation, retirement savings have been blown up in a lot of exotic foreign countries like Iraq and someone is going to have to do without. It'd be fairest if the blow fell on the Boomers, they set this up. The next generation can pay for their own mistakes.
- tantamounta 3y ago
  >> - Presided over a bunch of aggressive and needless wars. Sorry, help me out. What "bunch" of wars did they "Preside" over? Boomers were born 1946-1964 (per Wikipedia).
  - panzagl 3y ago
    Presumably they mean Iraq and Afghanistan/GWOT
- iinnPP 3y ago
  I love how blatantly age-based discrimination is so free flowing. Understand something, when you discriminate against ANYONE, you are condoning the discrimination you may or may not be against. You don't have to like it.
  - epistasis 3y ago
    There are all sorts of generational stereotyping and critiquing that go on, but what does it only become "discrimination" when the bad age-related effects of Boomers are pointed out? You never hear this overly cautious "don't discriminate!" Warning when Zoomers are critiqued. Similarly, age-based discrimination is illegal in the workplace, but only against older people. It is perfectly legal to discriminate based on age against younger people! This, despite younger people having less power and getting paid less on a group level. Very odd how all this concern only flows one way...
    - iinnPP 3y ago
      I treat all people as individuals and would make the same comment to reply to a bunch of stereotypes of zoomers as well. My reply already states this in other terms. It's impossible to be for equitable treatment without seeing individuals instead of groups.
Kretinsky 3y ago
Sorry, but Boomers are the main landlords in the US (and the western world). https://archive.ph/G3br6 https://archive.ph/G3br6 Also, if you look at local democracy, it's mainly boomers voting.
epistasis 3y ago
Well, maybe it's different in your area, but the generation currently showing up in the political process is all Boomers. What happens online doesn't matter for these things. What matters is who shows up and shakes down city council members by being angry and claiming to represent concerted voting blocs. Well, that and those who are changing the state level regulation of local municipalities to force them to build more housing. But that is a strategy pursued by younger groups advocating for housing (which also includes Boomers!). But the opposition is nearly uniform in their age, largely due to who has the free time to set city level policy.
micromacrofoot 3y ago
it’s not just the boomers (but mostly them) - look at our congresspeople, mostly boomers

roenxi 3y ago

I certainly agree with you, it is more about how people behave than anything else. Nevertheless, if we look at how the Boomers acted, they: - Presided over a bunch of aggressive and needless wars. - Led the slow decay of the US economy, weighed down with regulation, struggling to build things and stuck in a money printing spiral. - Have done a terrible job of letting up the political reins to new blood, and generally allowed liberty to backslide in some stunning and catastrophic ways (pointing particularly at the monetary system that has been consistently getting more repressive and the surveillance state). In some sense it is impressive that they only got a few things wrong, as a generation there was some amazing technological work done. But it is hard to recover from political and economic mistakes that profound. There isn't enough real wealth generation, retirement savings have been blown up in a lot of exotic foreign countries like Iraq and someone is going to have to do without. It'd be fairest if the blow fell on the Boomers, they set this up. The next generation can pay for their own mistakes.

tantamounta 3y ago
>> - Presided over a bunch of aggressive and needless wars. Sorry, help me out. What "bunch" of wars did they "Preside" over? Boomers were born 1946-1964 (per Wikipedia).
- panzagl 3y ago
  Presumably they mean Iraq and Afghanistan/GWOT
iinnPP 3y ago
I love how blatantly age-based discrimination is so free flowing. Understand something, when you discriminate against ANYONE, you are condoning the discrimination you may or may not be against. You don't have to like it.
- epistasis 3y ago
  There are all sorts of generational stereotyping and critiquing that go on, but what does it only become "discrimination" when the bad age-related effects of Boomers are pointed out? You never hear this overly cautious "don't discriminate!" Warning when Zoomers are critiqued. Similarly, age-based discrimination is illegal in the workplace, but only against older people. It is perfectly legal to discriminate based on age against younger people! This, despite younger people having less power and getting paid less on a group level. Very odd how all this concern only flows one way...
  - iinnPP 3y ago
    I treat all people as individuals and would make the same comment to reply to a bunch of stereotypes of zoomers as well. My reply already states this in other terms. It's impossible to be for equitable treatment without seeing individuals instead of groups.

Kretinsky 3y ago

Sorry, but Boomers are the main landlords in the US (and the western world). https://archive.ph/G3br6 https://archive.ph/G3br6 Also, if you look at local democracy, it's mainly boomers voting.

epistasis 3y ago

Well, maybe it's different in your area, but the generation currently showing up in the political process is all Boomers. What happens online doesn't matter for these things. What matters is who shows up and shakes down city council members by being angry and claiming to represent concerted voting blocs. Well, that and those who are changing the state level regulation of local municipalities to force them to build more housing. But that is a strategy pursued by younger groups advocating for housing (which also includes Boomers!). But the opposition is nearly uniform in their age, largely due to who has the free time to set city level policy.

micromacrofoot 3y ago

it’s not just the boomers (but mostly them) - look at our congresspeople, mostly boomers