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> because they were two working for a common goal. Same here, in a different Country, in a different Continent, on the other side of the Ocean. As you correct

> because they were two working for a common goal. Same here, in a different Country, in a different Continent, on the other side of the Ocean. As you correctly point out, society was built for couples, not necessarily to build families, but sure enough not to live alone, or to use the modern periphrasis "as a single". The entire rhetoric "ok boomer" is missing the point entirely, boomers were obviously the first generation in human history to benefit from an age of relative peace that lasted 70 years, but they were all "working for a common goal" and building society anew from the ashes that WWII left everywhere. It's hard to admit for my generation that we performed a lot worse than our parents in terms of political participation, rights movements and class struggle to extract from capital the necessary means to have a fulfilling life, we were enchanted by the song of the sirens, but unlike Ulysses, we did not tie ourselves to the mast and fell for it. I know my generation failed in a lot of ways, but my generation also had children that are a lot dumber than we were, through no fault of their own, but because they were not given the means to understand their past and the will to work hard, because for a parent saying "yes" is always easier than saying "no", so they probably won't be able to prevent the mistakes previous generations made, while also making completely new mistakes, that previous generations could not anticipate. One simple example: if you ask who invented the electric car most probably they will say Elon Musk at Tesla, while Elon Musk had no role in it and electric car predates ICE cars by 50 years.

mensetmanusman 3y ago
If the purpose of society is not for propagation into the future, I’m not sure what is.
- peoplefromibiza 3y ago
  > If the purpose of society is not for propagation into the future, I’m not sure what is. that doesn't involve living together in a million dollar house and it hasn't happened for 99% of the time humans have been on this planet. mating and living under the same roof are two different concepts. you're conflating two concepts that are completely orthogonal. Anyway: society is the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community. In no way society means "propagation into the future" and "propagation into the future" in no way means "housing should be affordable only if you are married and live together with children". It would also otherwise mean that society in the past focused on the "mating thing" while it is clear they did not, priests, priestess, warriors, chastity rules embedded into religious or social norms, it looks to me that the most important trait of the society was to make it prosper, protect it from outside and share the labour that needed to be done in the most productive or the most "please the gods" way on the inside. Moreover since people living alone or not in a commitment are nowadays the relative majority, it's nearly 30% in the US and in my country is an overwhelming 33.2%, there are more singles than couples here, maybe it's time society adapts to the new paradigm, society wasn't invented by some superior entity that set the rules on how we should live, comply or die style, society reflects the way people already live, unless you live in Afghanistan under the rules of the Talibans. It means we are living in societies whose mechanics don't align with how people live, that's why it is not working for the people living in it and people cannot afford or are unhappy living in it.

mensetmanusman 3y ago

If the purpose of society is not for propagation into the future, I’m not sure what is.

peoplefromibiza 3y ago
> If the purpose of society is not for propagation into the future, I’m not sure what is. that doesn't involve living together in a million dollar house and it hasn't happened for 99% of the time humans have been on this planet. mating and living under the same roof are two different concepts. you're conflating two concepts that are completely orthogonal. Anyway: society is the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community. In no way society means "propagation into the future" and "propagation into the future" in no way means "housing should be affordable only if you are married and live together with children". It would also otherwise mean that society in the past focused on the "mating thing" while it is clear they did not, priests, priestess, warriors, chastity rules embedded into religious or social norms, it looks to me that the most important trait of the society was to make it prosper, protect it from outside and share the labour that needed to be done in the most productive or the most "please the gods" way on the inside. Moreover since people living alone or not in a commitment are nowadays the relative majority, it's nearly 30% in the US and in my country is an overwhelming 33.2%, there are more singles than couples here, maybe it's time society adapts to the new paradigm, society wasn't invented by some superior entity that set the rules on how we should live, comply or die style, society reflects the way people already live, unless you live in Afghanistan under the rules of the Talibans. It means we are living in societies whose mechanics don't align with how people live, that's why it is not working for the people living in it and people cannot afford or are unhappy living in it.