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I’ve never heard of anthropic. Who are they and what do they offer that’s worth that investment?

inglor 3y ago
They have an excellent LLM called Claude which is quite competitive with OpenAI offerings and has long context windows. Other than OpenAI’s models they have been able to deliver the best results in projects I worked on and sometimes they outperformed OpenAI models too. I’m happy to see this as this gives them funding to further train expensive models and compete - their product is really nice at the moment but could really benefit from bigger size and even bigger contexts.
modeless 3y ago
They have Claude 2 which is up there with GPT-4 and PaLM 2 as one of the top three publicly accessible large language models. And presumably those billions will train Claude 3.
- Tiberium 3y ago
  I'm sorry but I'll have to disagree with you - Claude 2 is worse than GPT-4 in almost all tasks I've tried it with, the two things that it's better at than GPT-4 are the context window and the dataset being from early 2023 instead of late 2021 (for 3.5 Turbo/4).
  - swores 3y ago
    Being worse than GPT-4 doesn't dispute GP's claim that it's in the top 3 with GPT-4. To disagree with them you need to name models other than GPT-4 and PaLM 2 which are also better than Claude 2.
  - _ea1k 3y ago
    I've found it to be marginally worse at some coding tasks than gpt-3.5, but it is all highly specific to the kinds of questions that I'm asking.
hcks 3y ago
They are basically the only direct competitor to OA.
- quickthrower2 3y ago
  Except for Google
- anonylizard 3y ago
  Google Deepmind exists. All 3 are trying to build a generalist AI agent, as opposed to the more specialised models of say CharacterAI or inflection.
  - drexlspivey 3y ago
    Is Deepmind doing LLMs? I thought it was a different team in Google that trained Bard/Palm
    - theonlybutlet 3y ago
      They merged Deepmind into Brain and rebranded it all Deepmind.
    - warthog 3y ago
      I think they merged the teams
  - benreesman 3y ago
    I’m still trying to get my mind around a world where Brain/DeepMind aren’t way ahead on all this. They were so far ahead so recently. Is there a comeback story here? IIRC they’ve still got Dean and Hassabis and a bunch of other bruisers, along with arbitrary financing, the best training sets, and novel compute. Is it time to put Hassabis in charge and start making Ilya and Karpathy offers they can’t refuse?
    - loudmax 3y ago
      The world's greatest engineering talent won't save you if the management is incompetent. Google may yet experience a comeback, but it will start with throwing out the current C-suite.

They have an excellent LLM called Claude which is quite competitive with OpenAI offerings and has long context windows. Other than OpenAI’s models they have been able to deliver the best results in projects I worked on and sometimes they outperformed OpenAI models too. I’m happy to see this as this gives them funding to further train expensive models and compete - their product is really nice at the moment but could really benefit from bigger size and even bigger contexts.

modeless 3y ago

They have Claude 2 which is up there with GPT-4 and PaLM 2 as one of the top three publicly accessible large language models. And presumably those billions will train Claude 3.

Tiberium 3y ago
I'm sorry but I'll have to disagree with you - Claude 2 is worse than GPT-4 in almost all tasks I've tried it with, the two things that it's better at than GPT-4 are the context window and the dataset being from early 2023 instead of late 2021 (for 3.5 Turbo/4).
- swores 3y ago
  Being worse than GPT-4 doesn't dispute GP's claim that it's in the top 3 with GPT-4. To disagree with them you need to name models other than GPT-4 and PaLM 2 which are also better than Claude 2.
- _ea1k 3y ago
  I've found it to be marginally worse at some coding tasks than gpt-3.5, but it is all highly specific to the kinds of questions that I'm asking.

hcks 3y ago

They are basically the only direct competitor to OA.

quickthrower2 3y ago
Except for Google
anonylizard 3y ago
Google Deepmind exists. All 3 are trying to build a generalist AI agent, as opposed to the more specialised models of say CharacterAI or inflection.
- drexlspivey 3y ago
  Is Deepmind doing LLMs? I thought it was a different team in Google that trained Bard/Palm
  - theonlybutlet 3y ago
    They merged Deepmind into Brain and rebranded it all Deepmind.
  - warthog 3y ago
    I think they merged the teams
- benreesman 3y ago
  I’m still trying to get my mind around a world where Brain/DeepMind aren’t way ahead on all this. They were so far ahead so recently. Is there a comeback story here? IIRC they’ve still got Dean and Hassabis and a bunch of other bruisers, along with arbitrary financing, the best training sets, and novel compute. Is it time to put Hassabis in charge and start making Ilya and Karpathy offers they can’t refuse?
  - loudmax 3y ago
    The world's greatest engineering talent won't save you if the management is incompetent. Google may yet experience a comeback, but it will start with throwing out the current C-suite.