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Is this a continuation of 'first world problems'? 'London problems' Oh no, my train waits it the station for nearly a full minute. The fact that there actuall

Is this a continuation of 'first world problems'? 'London problems' Oh no, my train waits it the station for nearly a full minute. The fact that there actually is a train, the train isn't a converted bus that was supposed to be a temporary measure 30 years ago, that's it's deemed viable to actually make a 13 minute train journey, the fact that presumably the train isn't 13 minutes late and in fact turned up, and the fact that in my experience, a 60 second stop is good would suggest to me that there's no need to complain. Edit: to the downvoters. London has by far the best public transport in the country. Nowhere else has an underground system with trains every 5 minutes. The complaint is about a train waiting at the station for generally less than 60 seconds. For the rest of the country that would be a compliment not a complaint.

switch007 3y ago
I bet people downvoting don’t even know about Pacers or how bad they were lol. Most Londoners are completely ignorant of the pain of public transport up North (hell, even outside of London)
- benj111 3y ago
  There's a few comments about packed underground trains aswell, as if the once per hour train, ie the only one commuters can get isn't going to be packed, and it takes longer than a minute for everyone to get off and on, and it takes a lot longer than 13 minutes for the entire journey, and these are diesels so the acceleration is slow, and noisy. And this all assumes it isn't cancelled, or so delayed it makes you late for work. Getting to work an hour and 15 minutes early most mornings because you can't rely on the later train not to be 15 minutes late.
- angled 3y ago
  The NSW FP1 is gorgeous. I had no idea they existed! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_FP_Paybuses https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_FP_Paybuses
eesmith 3y ago
> ... best public transport in the country. Nowhere else has an underground system with trains every 5 minutes. Glasgow? "There are trains every four minutes at peak times and every six-to-eight minutes during off-peak times." says https://www.spt.co.uk/subway/subway-timetables/ https://www.spt.co.uk/subway/subway-timetables/ .
- thebruce87m 3y ago
  When English people talk about the “UK”, they really mean England. You’ll notice that even though they will talk about the UK throughout their post they will mention “the north”, by which they mean the north of England so they aren’t really talking about the UK.
  - eesmith 3y ago
    Yes, I know about their "country of countries". Before commenting I did an HN search and double-checked that benj111 consistently uses "country" to mean "UK", such as using "in my country (UK)", at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20995793 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20995793 . As for "the North", we have a similar historical construct in the US, where "the North" does not include Alaska or even North Dakota. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_United_States . Similarly, while Miami, Florida is geographically in the southern US, it is not culturally part of "the South". I think it's more likely that benj111 simply did not know that detail about the Glasgow, rather than knowing that detail and deliberately excluding it because it's in Scotland. It is, after all, a rather small system without the international fame of London's underground.
  - benj111 3y ago
    Or maybe I just wasn't aware of the regularity of Glasgow tube trains? When I talk about the UK, I really mean the UK. 'The north' is a name not necessarily reflective of geographic boundaries, if you want that, use 'the north of England'. 'Yorkshire' also necessarily excludes Scotland. I'm also geographically closer, and emotionally closer to Scotland than London, so why would I exclude Scotland?

switch007 3y ago

I bet people downvoting don’t even know about Pacers or how bad they were lol. Most Londoners are completely ignorant of the pain of public transport up North (hell, even outside of London)

benj111 3y ago
There's a few comments about packed underground trains aswell, as if the once per hour train, ie the only one commuters can get isn't going to be packed, and it takes longer than a minute for everyone to get off and on, and it takes a lot longer than 13 minutes for the entire journey, and these are diesels so the acceleration is slow, and noisy. And this all assumes it isn't cancelled, or so delayed it makes you late for work. Getting to work an hour and 15 minutes early most mornings because you can't rely on the later train not to be 15 minutes late.
angled 3y ago
The NSW FP1 is gorgeous. I had no idea they existed! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_FP_Paybuses https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_FP_Paybuses

eesmith 3y ago

> ... best public transport in the country. Nowhere else has an underground system with trains every 5 minutes. Glasgow? "There are trains every four minutes at peak times and every six-to-eight minutes during off-peak times." says https://www.spt.co.uk/subway/subway-timetables/ https://www.spt.co.uk/subway/subway-timetables/ .

thebruce87m 3y ago
When English people talk about the “UK”, they really mean England. You’ll notice that even though they will talk about the UK throughout their post they will mention “the north”, by which they mean the north of England so they aren’t really talking about the UK.
- eesmith 3y ago
  Yes, I know about their "country of countries". Before commenting I did an HN search and double-checked that benj111 consistently uses "country" to mean "UK", such as using "in my country (UK)", at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20995793 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20995793 . As for "the North", we have a similar historical construct in the US, where "the North" does not include Alaska or even North Dakota. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_United_States . Similarly, while Miami, Florida is geographically in the southern US, it is not culturally part of "the South". I think it's more likely that benj111 simply did not know that detail about the Glasgow, rather than knowing that detail and deliberately excluding it because it's in Scotland. It is, after all, a rather small system without the international fame of London's underground.
- benj111 3y ago
  Or maybe I just wasn't aware of the regularity of Glasgow tube trains? When I talk about the UK, I really mean the UK. 'The north' is a name not necessarily reflective of geographic boundaries, if you want that, use 'the north of England'. 'Yorkshire' also necessarily excludes Scotland. I'm also geographically closer, and emotionally closer to Scotland than London, so why would I exclude Scotland?