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Nice to read about this experience but there is a missing component: Modern diet is not what we evolved to eat. Until recently there was no agricolture, no br

Nice to read about this experience but there is a missing component: Modern diet is not what we evolved to eat. Until recently there was no agricolture, no bread, pasta, pizza or bakery. There was no basket of fruit readily available every day of the week (it was an occasional treat when in season). I had to lose weight a few times in my life (10kg, not too much) and I always struggled and counted calories like a maniac. The last time I was not only 10kg overweight but I had some severe stomach pain. After 2 years of struggling I tried the carnivore diet. In a week, all my stomach issues disappeared and I lost 8kg in a couple of months, without counting calories. If I eat animal fat I'm simply not hungry: I can't overeat. Demonising fats and meats was the worst thing society did and definitely contributed to the overweight epidemics.

paulpauper 3y ago
obese ppl gain weight on any diet, short of vegetables. Food is too calorie dense and obese ppl are too hungry.
wonnor 3y ago
It's great that you found a diet that worked for you, but it's strange to say that the article is remiss to not include your specific diet - unless you also think it should include every diet. For any given diet, you can find people whom it helped tremendously, and the carnivore diet is no different. There's also very little evidence for its effectiveness (which is not to say it's not effective, just that it's not particularly well-studied). Personally, I could eat enough meat daily to get very fat if I wasn't counting my calories. When my compliance is struggling, I find high-fiber diets to be the most effective in curbing hunger.
- hombre_fatal 3y ago
  Agreed. Besides, modern meat is also hyper palatable since it’s engineered to have increasingly high fat content. Also seems weird to talk about what our ancestors ate while buying saran wrapped meat from the market as if you’re going caveman mode. Or that it will give you some magical defense against the explosion of available calories in the modern food economy. Most social media dietary discourse focuses on magic-trick memes instead of the basic principles. Twitter and HN acts like it’s the hamburger bun and some pasta alfredo making us fat and not the 4000 calories we eat per day altogether. How about eat less, move more, avoid calorie dense foods. For example, eating out is 1000+ calories. Unless you curb one of your other three meals and don't snack, you're going over your 2300 calorie (or whatever) budget right there.

paulpauper 3y ago

obese ppl gain weight on any diet, short of vegetables. Food is too calorie dense and obese ppl are too hungry.

wonnor 3y ago

It's great that you found a diet that worked for you, but it's strange to say that the article is remiss to not include your specific diet - unless you also think it should include every diet. For any given diet, you can find people whom it helped tremendously, and the carnivore diet is no different. There's also very little evidence for its effectiveness (which is not to say it's not effective, just that it's not particularly well-studied). Personally, I could eat enough meat daily to get very fat if I wasn't counting my calories. When my compliance is struggling, I find high-fiber diets to be the most effective in curbing hunger.

hombre_fatal 3y ago
Agreed. Besides, modern meat is also hyper palatable since it’s engineered to have increasingly high fat content. Also seems weird to talk about what our ancestors ate while buying saran wrapped meat from the market as if you’re going caveman mode. Or that it will give you some magical defense against the explosion of available calories in the modern food economy. Most social media dietary discourse focuses on magic-trick memes instead of the basic principles. Twitter and HN acts like it’s the hamburger bun and some pasta alfredo making us fat and not the 4000 calories we eat per day altogether. How about eat less, move more, avoid calorie dense foods. For example, eating out is 1000+ calories. Unless you curb one of your other three meals and don't snack, you're going over your 2300 calorie (or whatever) budget right there.