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Islands which are also states say the name of the island twice at certain zoom levels. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/54.2375/-4.6695&layers=P https://w

by shpx 3y ago

Islands which are also states say the name of the island twice at certain zoom levels. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/54.2375/-4.6695&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/54.2375/-4.6695&layers... https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/13.9394/-61.0785&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/13.9394/-61.0785&layer... https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/16.7342/-62.1730&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/16.7342/-62.1730&layer... Topography and map don't match up for Fairway Rock https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/65.6235/-168.7505&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/65.6235/-168.7505&laye... Some islands are not named at any zoom level https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/49.629/-126.381&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/49.629/-126.381&layers=... https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/63.273/-170.184&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/63.273/-170.184&layers=... https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/71.253/-179.604&layers=P https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=8/71.253/-179.604&layers=...

colordrops 3y ago
Are these new problems or pre-existing problems?
- kibwen 3y ago
  You can click the "layers" button on the side to see how it looks in other layers. For the Isle of Man, other layers only show the name once, or don't show it at all at that close of a zoom level.
  - shpx 3y ago
    Actually the standard layer also says "Isle of Man" twice at a certain zoom https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=9/54.1624/-4.5071 https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=9/54.1624/-4.5071
lmm 3y ago
> Islands which are also states say the name of the island twice at certain zoom levels. That seems correct and desirable? They're two distinct things that happen to coincide. Just like a street with a name might also be part (or the entirety) of a numbered route, and we'd want the map to show both.
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- lucideer 3y ago
  That seems correct in theory but it is inconsistent between islands - I suspect it's to do with adminstrative levels differing between different nations. e.g. With the first example - Isle of Man - you won't see the same happen with either Great Britain or Ireland, nor with smaller adjacent islands. The labels font-sizes & zoom behaviour are also very different between Northern Ireland and Ireland - the UK having countries within a country and adding an extra admin level in the hierarchy. Isle of Man being a crown dependency could be a factor I guess, or something similar. Ultimately this seems fine to me though: representing areas locally for each locality is by definition inconsistent.
  - Angostura 3y ago
    Great Britain isn’t the national name. It is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
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    - lucideer 3y ago
      Great Britain is the name of the island - this comment is about islands.
hnben 3y ago
can this issue be solved without introducing ambiguity?
- hnben 3y ago
  I mean the first one > Islands which are also states say the name of the island twice at certain zoom levels.

by shpx 3y ago

colordrops 3y ago

Are these new problems or pre-existing problems?

kibwen 3y ago
You can click the "layers" button on the side to see how it looks in other layers. For the Isle of Man, other layers only show the name once, or don't show it at all at that close of a zoom level.
- shpx 3y ago
  Actually the standard layer also says "Isle of Man" twice at a certain zoom https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=9/54.1624/-4.5071 https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=9/54.1624/-4.5071

lmm 3y ago

> Islands which are also states say the name of the island twice at certain zoom levels. That seems correct and desirable? They're two distinct things that happen to coincide. Just like a street with a name might also be part (or the entirety) of a numbered route, and we'd want the map to show both.

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lucideer 3y ago
That seems correct in theory but it is inconsistent between islands - I suspect it's to do with adminstrative levels differing between different nations. e.g. With the first example - Isle of Man - you won't see the same happen with either Great Britain or Ireland, nor with smaller adjacent islands. The labels font-sizes & zoom behaviour are also very different between Northern Ireland and Ireland - the UK having countries within a country and adding an extra admin level in the hierarchy. Isle of Man being a crown dependency could be a factor I guess, or something similar. Ultimately this seems fine to me though: representing areas locally for each locality is by definition inconsistent.
- Angostura 3y ago
  Great Britain isn’t the national name. It is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
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  - lucideer 3y ago
    Great Britain is the name of the island - this comment is about islands.

hnben 3y ago

can this issue be solved without introducing ambiguity?

hnben 3y ago
I mean the first one > Islands which are also states say the name of the island twice at certain zoom levels.