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This is an allowed practice, just not idiomatic, mostly following on Erlang convention I think. If you do the coding gnome elixir course, he quite explicitly ha

by cgio 3y ago

This is an allowed practice, just not idiomatic, mostly following on Erlang convention I think. If you do the coding gnome elixir course, he quite explicitly has a section on this and proceeds with separating API from server. At the end of the day, it is equivalent and all it takes is getting used to one or the other. I would argue spending the time to get used to the idiomatic way a community establishes is to your benefit in the end.

jlouis 3y ago
It's an Erlang convention. Erlang suffers from having a very rudimentary module system, so a clean separation between the public API and the gen_server API isn't that easy to make. If you have access to a better module system, you should definitely induce a cleaner separation and adapt that as a convention. It helps people in general, but the in particular the less experienced.
pests 3y ago
I agree and love Elixir and use it daily. I think my downvotes above is really strange lmao. This is just a common footgun I see new developers struggle with.
- jongjong 3y ago
  I feel like Elixir get pushed too hard on people. Makes me skeptical. Same way I feel about TypeScript community. Calm down, it's just a programming language. I don't believe the programming language matters much. What matters is one's familiarity with it. There are good tools and frameworks available for just about any moderately popular language. Every language has caveats. Every language has lots of pros and cons and when you average them out, they're essentially all the same. Just a matter of personal preferences and habits.
  - weatherlight 3y ago
    It's not just a programming language—it's an entire philosophy centered around fault tolerance and concurrency, thanks to its foundation on the Erlang VM. While Elixir's syntax and features are certainly appealing, the real power lies in its integration with the Erlang VM. When people praise Elixir, a significant portion of that praise is directed at the capabilities you get with OTP/BEAM right out of the box. These include robustness, distribution, and real-time processing, which are not as readily available or as mature in other ecosystems. the Erlang VM is 38+ years old.
- sodapopcan 3y ago
  My guess re: downvotes is the wording. The opening sort of reads like you have written-off Elixir entirely because of this one issue. That was the impression I got, at least, though I was able to figure out that wasn't the case before I responded.

by cgio 3y ago

jlouis 3y ago

It's an Erlang convention. Erlang suffers from having a very rudimentary module system, so a clean separation between the public API and the gen_server API isn't that easy to make. If you have access to a better module system, you should definitely induce a cleaner separation and adapt that as a convention. It helps people in general, but the in particular the less experienced.

pests 3y ago

I agree and love Elixir and use it daily. I think my downvotes above is really strange lmao. This is just a common footgun I see new developers struggle with.

jongjong 3y ago
I feel like Elixir get pushed too hard on people. Makes me skeptical. Same way I feel about TypeScript community. Calm down, it's just a programming language. I don't believe the programming language matters much. What matters is one's familiarity with it. There are good tools and frameworks available for just about any moderately popular language. Every language has caveats. Every language has lots of pros and cons and when you average them out, they're essentially all the same. Just a matter of personal preferences and habits.
- weatherlight 3y ago
  It's not just a programming language—it's an entire philosophy centered around fault tolerance and concurrency, thanks to its foundation on the Erlang VM. While Elixir's syntax and features are certainly appealing, the real power lies in its integration with the Erlang VM. When people praise Elixir, a significant portion of that praise is directed at the capabilities you get with OTP/BEAM right out of the box. These include robustness, distribution, and real-time processing, which are not as readily available or as mature in other ecosystems. the Erlang VM is 38+ years old.
sodapopcan 3y ago
My guess re: downvotes is the wording. The opening sort of reads like you have written-off Elixir entirely because of this one issue. That was the impression I got, at least, though I was able to figure out that wasn't the case before I responded.