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They used the term LARP a lot more literally than I expected. Although the history of LARP as a legal defense is narrow, the authors share the concern that i
by kr0bat 3y ago
They used the term LARP a lot more literally than I expected.
Although the history of LARP as a legal defense is narrow, the authors share the concern that it may soon become commonplace. Early attempts at such a strategy have been made by a defendant acting alone or in loose cooperation with members of a fantasy group who knew each other only in the virtual world, claiming “artistic expression” to excuse threatening language.
I can see this being a big problem with memes in the immediate future. Does the FBI have a page where they attempt to distinguish edgy memes from genuine calls to violence? This is a relatively benign example, but there are TikToks where users pretend to have fantasies about taking officer's service weapon. Sure they're all jokes, but modern internet humor is deeply ironic; I'd imagine there are plenty of genuinely violent people making seemingly ironic memes. I'd also imagine that there are nonviolent memers disseminating genuine violent ideas and vice versa.
- faeriechangling 3y agoWell fuck the feds for snooping on all our conversations honestly. When we don't have privacy, people collectively engaging in edgy irony to the point you can't distinguish the signal from the noise provides people with a level of free speech.
- pixl97 3y ago"Posts on a public site...Complains about privacy" What the hell you are going on about man. If you post something like "Hey, lets shoot some cops", or hell "lets start shooting ____" online you are giving up your right to privacy. Yes, the US legal system has means of taking the 'evidence' you posted online in front of a judge and getting a warrant. Via the warrant system nearly complete dismantling of your privacy can be compelled. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
- parineum 3y agoNeither of those things would be a basis for something like a search warrant because the threat is not specific and credible. It's not a crime to say, "Hey, let's shoot some cops". It would be a crime to say, "Hey, let's hang out in front of the local police station and shoot some cops tomorrow morning. Bring your guns."
- pixl97 3y agoIn your imaginary world. In the real world telling the difference between a non-specific and credible threat commonly takes investigation, especially when one of the parties is brought up to law enforcement multiple times. In addition law enforcement agencies, especially the local ones, are based on the whims of elected officials. If the local populace thinks they they aren't being tough enough on crime, then especially in smaller cities, they will be replaced.
- latency-guy2 3y agoWell the feds in this case is around 30 other countries doing the spying for them and then sharing the information so as to avoid domestic laws in their own country. France, Germany, Britain, New Zealand, Canada, Japan, and obviously the U.S. are the current biggest players It's only fair that the people do not comply, seeing as we know none of these countries have a problem with violating rights whenever they desire.
- DoItToMe81 3y agoThey don't have a page because they don't make the distinction. And, generally, once they're called in, have the idea of securing a conviction at any cost.
- Tao3300 3y ago> users pretend to have fantasies about taking officer's service weapon. Why is this a trend...
- HideousKojima 3y agoFunnier is how many of these people don't seem to understand how retention holsters work.
- xwdv 3y agoTo create a paranoia amongst police officers that disproportionately affects minorities.
- ethbr1 3y agoWait, is this trend being pushed by fascists, anti-fascists, or capitalists? I'm confused.
- kr0bat 3y agoD) Irony poisoned teenagers
- junofan 3y agoAssuming you mean negatively affecting minorities, how does that follow from the article: > Extremism does not exist without identifying an out-group and taking hostile action against it.
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- 082349872349872 3y agocf mens rea; in the financial context Matt Levine's "Money Stuff" column often points out that if people are doing something dodgy the worst thing (for any future defence) they can do is try to weasel-word it. Edit: eg https://kotaku.com/minecraft-death-threat-4chan-pol-shooter-arrested-cops-1850241929 https://kotaku.com/minecraft-death-threat-4chan-pol-shooter-...