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How would hydration predispose to liver cancer?

by killjoywashere 3y ago

DoreenMichele 3y ago
It shouldn't, but dehydration might?
- pama 3y ago
  Why?
  - DoreenMichele 3y ago
    The liver filters the blood. Blood is mostly fluid. Dehydration isn't good for you generally. And when my dad was told to get his affairs in order, his cancer was going to kill him, hydration was a big focus for my parents. He lived another two decades. So obviously I'm an idiot and it's "anecdata" and I can't cite any large scale studies, but I can wonder in good faith if hydration might impact cancer for more people than just my father. And the Houston Clinic interviewed my mother on tape for two hours because they knew they didn't keep him alive, she did, and changed their practices because of what she said. So people with better medical credentials than "My daddy didn't die when he was supposed to" also thought maybe something my parents did was significant.
    - pama 3y ago
      I don’t know of any established correlation of dehydration to any of this. Our bodies evolved over periods of time when bouts of dehydration were much more common. I just thought that maybe I missed some recent counterintuitive discovery. Of course, please hydrate properly but if you don’t, no need to worry about future cancers.
    - ethbr1 3y ago
      IANAN, but typically you're talking chronic kidney damage with regards to habitual dehydration, in a healthy person. +100 on cancer support via nutrition and hydration though. Folks don't realize how many cancer outcomes are exacerbated by "I just won't get my nutrients checked and continue with my normal diet." Your body is fundamentally different, especially on chemo, and needs different support.
      - DoreenMichele 3y ago
        A quick search suggests kidney and liver problems are related and liver damage tends to precede kidney damage. Maybe someone more invested in this question will go down a rabbit hole and share. I was just doing a gut check of my knee jerk reaction of "But what I know of the human body...."
        ethbr1 3y ago
        They're both complicated enough systems that there can be independent or causal (either way) disease progression. Something like hepatorenal syndrome [0] would be a liver to kidney collapse, but that's more to do with blood supply. [0] https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23399-hepatorenal-syndrome https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23399-hepator...
        DoreenMichele 3y ago
        Search for "does dehydration negatively impact bloodsupply" Gets me: Yes (in big bold lettering) followed by a statement that it increases sodium and thickens the blood, interfering with circulation, which my cheap phone is refusing to let me copy-paste.
        ethbr1 3y ago
        Please take this the way it's intended: nurses and doctors study blood and internal organs for years, and diagnosis is still challenging. This is complex stuff.
  - DANmode 3y ago
    Higher concentrations of bad things, for longer, in absence of water, and fluid movement.

How would hydration predispose to liver cancer?

DoreenMichele 3y ago

It shouldn't, but dehydration might?

pama 3y ago
Why?
- DoreenMichele 3y ago
  The liver filters the blood. Blood is mostly fluid. Dehydration isn't good for you generally. And when my dad was told to get his affairs in order, his cancer was going to kill him, hydration was a big focus for my parents. He lived another two decades. So obviously I'm an idiot and it's "anecdata" and I can't cite any large scale studies, but I can wonder in good faith if hydration might impact cancer for more people than just my father. And the Houston Clinic interviewed my mother on tape for two hours because they knew they didn't keep him alive, she did, and changed their practices because of what she said. So people with better medical credentials than "My daddy didn't die when he was supposed to" also thought maybe something my parents did was significant.
  - pama 3y ago
    I don’t know of any established correlation of dehydration to any of this. Our bodies evolved over periods of time when bouts of dehydration were much more common. I just thought that maybe I missed some recent counterintuitive discovery. Of course, please hydrate properly but if you don’t, no need to worry about future cancers.
  - ethbr1 3y ago
    IANAN, but typically you're talking chronic kidney damage with regards to habitual dehydration, in a healthy person. +100 on cancer support via nutrition and hydration though. Folks don't realize how many cancer outcomes are exacerbated by "I just won't get my nutrients checked and continue with my normal diet." Your body is fundamentally different, especially on chemo, and needs different support.
    - DoreenMichele 3y ago
      A quick search suggests kidney and liver problems are related and liver damage tends to precede kidney damage. Maybe someone more invested in this question will go down a rabbit hole and share. I was just doing a gut check of my knee jerk reaction of "But what I know of the human body...."
      - ethbr1 3y ago
        They're both complicated enough systems that there can be independent or causal (either way) disease progression. Something like hepatorenal syndrome [0] would be a liver to kidney collapse, but that's more to do with blood supply. [0] https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23399-hepatorenal-syndrome https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23399-hepator...
        DoreenMichele 3y ago
        Search for "does dehydration negatively impact bloodsupply" Gets me: Yes (in big bold lettering) followed by a statement that it increases sodium and thickens the blood, interfering with circulation, which my cheap phone is refusing to let me copy-paste.
        ethbr1 3y ago
        Please take this the way it's intended: nurses and doctors study blood and internal organs for years, and diagnosis is still challenging. This is complex stuff.
- DANmode 3y ago
  Higher concentrations of bad things, for longer, in absence of water, and fluid movement.