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> before you say “sounds like you just want a tablet” One of my friends uses a GPD Pocket 3, which is an 8-inch computer that's small enough to fit in your poc

by kibwen 3y ago

> before you say “sounds like you just want a tablet” One of my friends uses a GPD Pocket 3, which is an 8-inch computer that's small enough to fit in your pocket, with a full keyboard, touchpad, and touchscreen that swivels to become a tablet. It's pretty nifty. https://gpd.hk/gpdpocket3 https://gpd.hk/gpdpocket3

screye 3y ago
I'd say purchase a folding phone. It's great.
- Someone1234 3y ago
  It doesn't address this editing issue at all. It somewhat attempts to address multi-tasking, but this thread is specifically about how poor the text editing experience is, and I'd like to hear how a folding phone fixes that? I have an iPad and even there without a mouse plugged in, the editing experience is poor.
  - screye 3y ago
    You're correct. It isn't a direct solution. For the most part, it makes the selection experience easier, which then makes the editing experience easier. But I wouldn't underestimate how big a difference it is. One difference between a folding phone and an iPad, is that I can reach every part of my screen with my thumbs still in their resting position. It feels a lot more ergonomic to have an 8 inch 4:3 screen than a larger 16:10 screen that requires hands gymnastics to touch type. Hold to select word. Drag to extend selection. Drag pops up the edit menu by default, which takes little screen real estate and zero additional clicks to do a cut/copy. Lastly, a cut/copy automatically puts the snippet as the top recommendation on my auto complete bar on the keyboard. So paste doesn't need triggering the edit menu again. Samsung doesn't have a double tap experience. So it removes that ambiguity. I have the stubbiest fingers I know and I type a lot ; as my HN profile bears witness. So I have heavily user-tested this experience that I claim to love so much.
  - knodi 3y ago
    Shocker! touch is not the best at complex and precise input. But it’s great for general purpose use and buttons. Problem is we all at some point in our day, week, month need to do something complex on the touch device, which becomes a challenging task and experience.
ljlolel 3y ago
The new iPhone is 6.7 inches so nearly there?
dTal 3y ago
Although they used the 'Pocket' brand for the Pocket 3, it is really a GPD MicroPC 2. The original MicroPC was 6 inches and is an even better candidate for "phone sized laptop". The crazy thing is that it's perfectly usable and much more productive than a phone - if it could make phone calls and had the same sensor suite as a smartphone, it would be superior along every axis.
- walteweiss 3y ago
  Oh wow! I remember the 1st and 2nd Gen.! The 3rd one is so nice! I don’t need one any soon, but it looks like I’d love to have one later in the future. I’m very curious what would the next gens look like.
walteweiss 3y ago
I found even better laptop, if you don’t need any extra slots (most of the time I don’t): GPD P2 Max 2022. The world's smallest Ultrabook: https://gpd.hk/gpdp2max2022 https://gpd.hk/gpdp2max2022
- thrownblown 3y ago
  As a bit of a GPD fanboi I have both a pocket 2 and a pocket max. When I was a server admin, pocket 2 went everywhere with me in a pelican case. That was just this side of too bulky to carry without noticing. Pocket max in the pelican was just on the other side of that threshold. The benefit of the pocket 2 is the full windows/linux installation alongside the usable qwerty keyboard.
ako 3y ago
I don’t think screen size is the limiting factor when editing, but the lack of a convenient keyboard. I’ve edited quite large texts with a Bluetooth keyboard connected to my phone. Currently have a Nuphy air 75 and keychron k15 pro, small sized, mechanical, ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards, both make editing pretty acceptable.
- ghaff 3y ago
  To be honest, I haven’t even been able to make a tablet really work for me as a serious laptop replacement for any halfway serious office productivity work. Except for a very short trip I bring a laptop because otherwise I’ll run into something I have trouble doing that I need to do.
  - ako 3y ago
    True, but i feel the same way about laptops. For true productivity i need at least one big display, so will usually dock it with an external display, keyboard and mouse. Funny thing is that the modern iPads connected to an external display gives more or less the same experience as a laptop (as long as you're not programming...)
    - ghaff 3y ago
      I have a multi-display desktop. I accept I’m not going to have full capabilities if I’m not at home. For travel an external display on an iPad is a nonstarter.
- fragmede 3y ago
  But then you need a table or some sort of surface to put the keyboard on, and then I might as well use my laptop if I have it. I want better editing for when I'm standing in line at the grocery store with one hand free. I have a keyboard that I've attached a guitar strap to, in order to be able to type while standing, without a table to rest the keyboard on.
  - jstarfish 3y ago
harpiaharpyja 3y ago
I love the concept... but in that price range, I'm no longer comfortable just carrying it around with me, which partially negates the reason for getting it.
- civilitty 3y ago
  Given the (really cool) KVM module with HDMI input and USB keyboard/mouse output, it really feels like an enterprise datacenter product.
b112 3y ago
Sadly, the .hk kills it. I can't even look at the page, my corp network geoip blocks China's IP addresses completely. Corp would never let a Chinese created device on network.

by kibwen 3y ago

screye 3y ago

I'd say purchase a folding phone. It's great.

Someone1234 3y ago
It doesn't address this editing issue at all. It somewhat attempts to address multi-tasking, but this thread is specifically about how poor the text editing experience is, and I'd like to hear how a folding phone fixes that? I have an iPad and even there without a mouse plugged in, the editing experience is poor.
- screye 3y ago
  You're correct. It isn't a direct solution. For the most part, it makes the selection experience easier, which then makes the editing experience easier. But I wouldn't underestimate how big a difference it is. One difference between a folding phone and an iPad, is that I can reach every part of my screen with my thumbs still in their resting position. It feels a lot more ergonomic to have an 8 inch 4:3 screen than a larger 16:10 screen that requires hands gymnastics to touch type. Hold to select word. Drag to extend selection. Drag pops up the edit menu by default, which takes little screen real estate and zero additional clicks to do a cut/copy. Lastly, a cut/copy automatically puts the snippet as the top recommendation on my auto complete bar on the keyboard. So paste doesn't need triggering the edit menu again. Samsung doesn't have a double tap experience. So it removes that ambiguity. I have the stubbiest fingers I know and I type a lot ; as my HN profile bears witness. So I have heavily user-tested this experience that I claim to love so much.
- knodi 3y ago
  Shocker! touch is not the best at complex and precise input. But it’s great for general purpose use and buttons. Problem is we all at some point in our day, week, month need to do something complex on the touch device, which becomes a challenging task and experience.

ljlolel 3y ago

The new iPhone is 6.7 inches so nearly there?

dTal 3y ago

Although they used the 'Pocket' brand for the Pocket 3, it is really a GPD MicroPC 2. The original MicroPC was 6 inches and is an even better candidate for "phone sized laptop". The crazy thing is that it's perfectly usable and much more productive than a phone - if it could make phone calls and had the same sensor suite as a smartphone, it would be superior along every axis.

walteweiss 3y ago
Oh wow! I remember the 1st and 2nd Gen.! The 3rd one is so nice! I don’t need one any soon, but it looks like I’d love to have one later in the future. I’m very curious what would the next gens look like.

walteweiss 3y ago

I found even better laptop, if you don’t need any extra slots (most of the time I don’t): GPD P2 Max 2022. The world's smallest Ultrabook: https://gpd.hk/gpdp2max2022 https://gpd.hk/gpdp2max2022

thrownblown 3y ago
As a bit of a GPD fanboi I have both a pocket 2 and a pocket max. When I was a server admin, pocket 2 went everywhere with me in a pelican case. That was just this side of too bulky to carry without noticing. Pocket max in the pelican was just on the other side of that threshold. The benefit of the pocket 2 is the full windows/linux installation alongside the usable qwerty keyboard.

ako 3y ago

I don’t think screen size is the limiting factor when editing, but the lack of a convenient keyboard. I’ve edited quite large texts with a Bluetooth keyboard connected to my phone. Currently have a Nuphy air 75 and keychron k15 pro, small sized, mechanical, ergonomic Bluetooth keyboards, both make editing pretty acceptable.

ghaff 3y ago
To be honest, I haven’t even been able to make a tablet really work for me as a serious laptop replacement for any halfway serious office productivity work. Except for a very short trip I bring a laptop because otherwise I’ll run into something I have trouble doing that I need to do.
- ako 3y ago
  True, but i feel the same way about laptops. For true productivity i need at least one big display, so will usually dock it with an external display, keyboard and mouse. Funny thing is that the modern iPads connected to an external display gives more or less the same experience as a laptop (as long as you're not programming...)
  - ghaff 3y ago
    I have a multi-display desktop. I accept I’m not going to have full capabilities if I’m not at home. For travel an external display on an iPad is a nonstarter.
fragmede 3y ago
But then you need a table or some sort of surface to put the keyboard on, and then I might as well use my laptop if I have it. I want better editing for when I'm standing in line at the grocery store with one hand free. I have a keyboard that I've attached a guitar strap to, in order to be able to type while standing, without a table to rest the keyboard on.
- jstarfish 3y ago

harpiaharpyja 3y ago

I love the concept... but in that price range, I'm no longer comfortable just carrying it around with me, which partially negates the reason for getting it.

civilitty 3y ago
Given the (really cool) KVM module with HDMI input and USB keyboard/mouse output, it really feels like an enterprise datacenter product.

b112 3y ago

Sadly, the .hk kills it. I can't even look at the page, my corp network geoip blocks China's IP addresses completely. Corp would never let a Chinese created device on network.