Disclaimer: I don't mean to derail the discussion and I don't intend this tangent to go far in this thread: I really wish more systems- and particularly tech-m

Disclaimer: I don't mean to derail the discussion and I don't intend this tangent to go far in this thread: I really wish more systems- and particularly tech-minded folks would think like you more often, especially when it comes to manufacturing/logistics as well as end-of-life costs. In nearly all cases of my life I've found no real benefit to buying new over buying used, maybe it takes a little more research and patience finding the right deal but the effort is always worth it. I find the discussions around electric cars and massive ML models especially problematic because of the complete lack of consideration for these factors on display.