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>it was exceedingly uncommon for PC's in the Pentium 4 era to ship with anything higher than a 200W PSU. Yet today it is not uncommon to hear of 850W PSU's Exa

>it was exceedingly uncommon for PC's in the Pentium 4 era to ship with anything higher than a 200W PSU. Yet today it is not uncommon to hear of 850W PSU's Exactly that. I just had to upgrade my 850W psu to 1000W because I'm upgrading my gpu to an rtx 3090. This is why if you want the absolutely most power efficient NAS/home server and you don't need a lot of cpu/ram people use p4 era hardware. The lowest wattage I saw on a German user group about this was around 6W for an idling system. I myself am currently running a p4 era 1u server (a Fujitsu primergy rx100 s7) with a 4 core Xeon (2.4ghz or so), 4gb ram, google's edge TPU accelerator(dual edge tpu on pcie) and two 1tb spinning disks in a mirror on as a CCTV server(the tpu does object recognition). This box runs at 20%~90% cpu utilisation all the time and it draws 35W on average at the wall. It can peak at 75W or go down to 25W (it never really idles). This server (excluding the tpu) cost me under $100. And if I want I can replace the disks with bigger ones or add 2 more external drives as there are 2 unused sata ports. Also this server comes with remote management card so I can login anytime using a separate network port and do a power down, set temperature alerts etc, see power usage or access the console/bios. Good luck finding a similar option with similar features, low power consumption and price with modern hardware. Yes, I'm a fan of retro hw. I have a commodore 64, a 386sx, a win98 and winxp pcs. Some have only sentimental value, but not all old hw is impractical to use seriously today.

makomk 3y ago
Your 1U server seems to be Ivy Bridge-based, which is about a decade or so newer than the Pentium 4 and much, much more energy efficient - and there's a lot of cheap second hand hardware out there from that era as well.
- Roark66 3y ago
  I had to check, because I wasn't aware there is such a time gap between the two. I seem to remember having P4s in many an office desktop while E3 xeons were present in new servers we installed. My Xeon cpu is Intel® Xeon® processor E3-1220Lv2 with 17W TDP wow! It was released in 2012 while last of P4s were sold new in 2008 (but first were released in 2002). So yes, you're right there is a decade between these two. In my mind (incorrectly) they were in the same "era" as many of my small business clients had lots of PCs with them at the time of Ivy Bridge Xeons.
nikau 3y ago
> This is why if you want the absolutely most power efficient NAS/home server and you don't need a lot of cpu/ram people use p4 era hardware Calling bullshit on this one, my p4 nas chewed through power, I upgraded to one of the low power modern Celeron boards which drew around a quarter of the power. My p4 had a big heatsink and fan, my quad core Celeron is passive cooled with a tiny heatsink in comparison.

makomk 3y ago

Your 1U server seems to be Ivy Bridge-based, which is about a decade or so newer than the Pentium 4 and much, much more energy efficient - and there's a lot of cheap second hand hardware out there from that era as well.

Roark66 3y ago
I had to check, because I wasn't aware there is such a time gap between the two. I seem to remember having P4s in many an office desktop while E3 xeons were present in new servers we installed. My Xeon cpu is Intel® Xeon® processor E3-1220Lv2 with 17W TDP wow! It was released in 2012 while last of P4s were sold new in 2008 (but first were released in 2002). So yes, you're right there is a decade between these two. In my mind (incorrectly) they were in the same "era" as many of my small business clients had lots of PCs with them at the time of Ivy Bridge Xeons.

nikau 3y ago

> This is why if you want the absolutely most power efficient NAS/home server and you don't need a lot of cpu/ram people use p4 era hardware Calling bullshit on this one, my p4 nas chewed through power, I upgraded to one of the low power modern Celeron boards which drew around a quarter of the power. My p4 had a big heatsink and fan, my quad core Celeron is passive cooled with a tiny heatsink in comparison.