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Hey, I really want Gmail alternatives, is the best approach going for Apple Icloud account? Are there better services that are expected to last a long time? Tha
by a1o 3y ago
Hey, I really want Gmail alternatives, is the best approach going for Apple Icloud account? Are there better services that are expected to last a long time? Thanks!
- toxik 3y agoI think few people use iCloud for email.
- kergonath 3y agoI do, and I am happy with it. I don’t use the Web interface very often but it does the job just fine when I need it. It certainly does not have many features Gmail has, though. Some bits of iCloud are wonky but email works just fine.
- olavfosse 3y agoSource? Anecdotally many people do. It's actually quite good imo considering the native GUI and features like hide-my-email.
- yett 3y agoI've been using iCloud since they announced support for custom domains. You can have up to 5 custom domains, catch all and 3 aliases for each domain as low as $0.99/mo
- toxik 3y agoFirst time I hear about them having custom domains, interesting.
- ycombinete 3y agoI’ve used Fastmail for 5 years, and I’ve been quite happy.
- mtillman 3y agoI bought a full fast mail account to try it out. It seemed pretty insecure coming from protonmail. They require location data for example. No need for that I can think of for the user. They also don’t do E2E or even what passes for e2e. I wasn’t super impressed at the time. I’ll have to log back in and see if any of it changed.
- xNeil 3y agoAustralia also seems to be a terrible place for privacy, at least policy-wise.
- Engineering-MD 3y agoThey haven’t asked for location data for me in iOS. It’s a different intent to proton mail. Most emails I send are not end to end encrypted as the other end wouldn’t accept it. For any E2E encryption needs I use proton or a messenger service.
- SanjayMehta 3y agoI switched my company accounts from Google to Zoho. What I like about Zoho is that each account can be sized individually.
- smeej 3y agoI expect Proton and Skiff to last a long time, because you're the customer, not the product.
- Razengan 3y agoI've been using iCloud Mail since like 2012 and never felt the need to use any other service, let alone the much uglier (in comparison) Gmail UI! Besides the ads, Gmail also has that annoying "YourRealAddress+alias" which makes aliases useless, whereas iCloud aliases have saved me from a lot of spam, and it's infinitely better now with their new "Hide My Email" feature that lets you create a different address each time.
- evook 3y agoI am happy with mxroute.
- grvdrm 3y agoI’m on year #2 with Hey. But the important question is what you value in Gmail. For example, labeling not nearly as useful in Hey.
- TheDong 3y agoYou're on hacker news, which means you're technically capable and probably make about $400k/year from google. That means you can do this right. Setup an AS and buy a /24 (roughly $10k), buy a server and router for BGP, colo them in a datacenter (roughly $1k/mo + $500 initial cost for used servers and setup). From there, it should be a simple matter to install your preferred email setup, such as postfix + dovecot or such (probably 2 hours if you've done this before, and maybe 2 days if you haven't).
- crabmusket 3y agoThis is a hall-of-fame worthy comment.
- ionwake 3y agoIt is. I remember spending substantial time getting to know centos and ricing it because it was the technical superior way to do it. Realised KDE was terrible and none of it was worth the hassle. I should have just bought a Mac a decade earlier.
- mauvehaus 3y ago> I should have just bought a Mac a decade earlier. Can confirm: I have never sysadminned for myself recreationally. After I bungled an Arch upgrade (by failing to read the notes) I bought a Mac and haven't looked back. Yeah, it ships with a weird awk, and the GNU tools it comes with are pretty dated, but it's close enough for basically everything I want it to do.
- aperture147 3y agoIMO, most of people who always flex bout their skill on using arch or kali linux doesn't really use it and don't have basic knowledge about unix/linux. As a DevOps and sometimes be sysadmin, I've interviewed a lot of self-proclaimed "hacker" (most of them are young) and most of them lack of fundamental knowledge about process, memory and networking, when they are the most important thing to do anything seriously in linux/unix. > it's close enough for basically everything I want it to do. People has been making argument for years about the best distro and which distro makes them look like a god. Now, anything which helps me do my job as fast as I can is the best and I think Debian/Ubuntu is the best distro to work with. Large user base, familiar interface and pretty up-to-date software is the selling point of Debian/Ubuntu.
- crabbone 3y agoCheck your ISP contract. Some still provide you with an email account. You could've been paying for this email account all this time w/o realizing it. And even if they don't provide it right now, maybe they can do so for extra fee. If not, different countries have all kinds of programs to give free emails. Usually quite limited in storage, but still. You could start checking that with the post office -- they'd be the likely candidates to provide such a service.
- mkup 3y agoI'm on Migadu for 1.5 years (few domains, about a half-dozen mailboxes). I've chosen them for the lowest price. No complaints so far.
- mdhen 3y agoVery happy with proton. Having simplelogin bundled in is great.