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You are needlessly paranoid. It's common to ask for the password and I don't think they'd touch your private files. After the screen is fixed they'd need to d

You are needlessly paranoid. It's common to ask for the password and I don't think they'd touch your private files. After the screen is fixed they'd need to do QA that it works correctly. Some things you just have to trust in life, too much paranoia won't lead you to good places. Trust me, I've been there.

orangepurple 3y ago
Considering Apple's history of working with intelligence agencies the paranoia is warranted. We can debate if OP is enough of a target for it to matter, though.
- nicce 3y ago
  All companies are required by law to be fair, in the U.S.
  - orangepurple 3y ago
    That's right. But Apple goes a step further and actively collaborates. Look up the secret ipad menu for the geiger counter.
- lm28469 3y ago
  Sure, they'll wait for you to break your screen, go to an apple store, and steal your password there, to look at your pictures and texts ... That's a very very very convoluted attack vector, unless you're very high value target they don't care about you enough to go through that. If apple were that corrupted they'd set a backdoor in all the phones, they wouldn't wait for John Doe to break his screen
user568439 3y ago
I might trust Apple in this specific situation but not their workers. They can cause me a lot of trouble with an unlocked iPhone. Like temporarily supplant my identity or steal pictures
- coolThingsFirst 3y ago
  What would they do with your nudes? Not like you wouldn't know if something went wrong. You'd literally have a cause for suing them. Like if I was working at AppleGenius or whatever, this would probably be a routine thing.
scrlk 3y ago
Better off wiping your phone before sending it in for repair - incidents like this are not worth the hassle: > Legal filings, first reported on by the Telegraph, revealed the unnamed woman sent her iPhone for repair on 14 January 2016 to an Apple-approved repair contractor called Pegatron Technology Service in California. Technicians there then uploaded “extremely personal and private material” to the woman’s Facebook account and other internet locations, the documents said. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jun/07/apple-settles-iphone-explicit-images https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jun/07/apple-set...
rezo2 3y ago
Would you like to give me your house key? I'll just check if there are any parasites there, while you're gone. Trust me.
- coolThingsFirst 3y ago
  Let's say your laptop's broken and you have important data in there. How would you recover it if you don't have the expertise? I also regular give my apartment's keys to maintence workers or landlord. If something goes missing I'd know who took it From one angle, I get where you're coming from. In the US people are really defensive for their homes. Where I live if I behave a bit closed off they'll think I'm growing drugs at home or something sinister like that. So it's a great privilege if you can be super paranoid about things like that.
gbil 3y ago
Having worked in a mobile manufacturer in the past close to the tech service responsible colleague, I can tell you that you should have NO trust to the service center agents with your personal data. At the same time - disclaimer my personal experience only - for repairs like screen replacement, unless the agent has really f* up there is non need for any repairs extensive tests that require full device access. Since then and while I’ve been away fro the field for too many years, in such repairs I ask that they don’t reset the device and get no complaints, maybe some typical “we might not be able to ensure proper operation otherwise” which I dismiss without issues. Again my personal experience AND no iPhones so I don’t know what apple does like maybe parts pairing that needs full access or something
corobo 3y ago
> You are needlessly paranoid. > It's common to ask for the password Haha, good one. I got a chortle combining this attitude with a site called hacker news. ... it was satire, right? I'd be up for them wiping the phone and I'll restore from backup later. Giving out my password defeats the point of me having a password. Them nudes don't leak themselves. Not to mention you're on the hook for any any sensitive work stuff or whatever that leaks out, having willingly given the person the keys.
- coolThingsFirst 3y ago
  It doesn't defeat the purpose you'd know immediately if something went wrong. Like I said this is a routine. If you fly, you are basically trusting your life to 2 people in the cockpit that you don't know. How come sharing password for data recovery is too great of a risk and flying is not.
  - corobo 3y ago
    I'd rather prevent the bad thing from happening than react to it when it does though. Much less effort. If I fly I assume the pilots don't want to lose their high paying jobs and/or their lives. Min wage can be swapped out for min wage without much of a life disruption. Also if a flight goes wrong chances are I won't be intact enough to care about the repercussions. Unfortunately too I've only been on a plane twice in my life, bad example haha (In fairness that's not fear based, just never really been able to afford holidays)
  - asadotzler 3y ago
    Because some 17 year old kid with his first job in the repair shop is not the same thing as a trained pilot.
TheSpiceIsLife 3y ago
It's common to normalisation or deviance is how you blow up space planes.

orangepurple 3y ago

Considering Apple's history of working with intelligence agencies the paranoia is warranted. We can debate if OP is enough of a target for it to matter, though.

nicce 3y ago
All companies are required by law to be fair, in the U.S.
- orangepurple 3y ago
  That's right. But Apple goes a step further and actively collaborates. Look up the secret ipad menu for the geiger counter.
lm28469 3y ago
Sure, they'll wait for you to break your screen, go to an apple store, and steal your password there, to look at your pictures and texts ... That's a very very very convoluted attack vector, unless you're very high value target they don't care about you enough to go through that. If apple were that corrupted they'd set a backdoor in all the phones, they wouldn't wait for John Doe to break his screen

user568439 3y ago

I might trust Apple in this specific situation but not their workers. They can cause me a lot of trouble with an unlocked iPhone. Like temporarily supplant my identity or steal pictures

coolThingsFirst 3y ago
What would they do with your nudes? Not like you wouldn't know if something went wrong. You'd literally have a cause for suing them. Like if I was working at AppleGenius or whatever, this would probably be a routine thing.

scrlk 3y ago

Better off wiping your phone before sending it in for repair - incidents like this are not worth the hassle: > Legal filings, first reported on by the Telegraph, revealed the unnamed woman sent her iPhone for repair on 14 January 2016 to an Apple-approved repair contractor called Pegatron Technology Service in California. Technicians there then uploaded “extremely personal and private material” to the woman’s Facebook account and other internet locations, the documents said. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jun/07/apple-settles-iphone-explicit-images https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jun/07/apple-set...

rezo2 3y ago

Would you like to give me your house key? I'll just check if there are any parasites there, while you're gone. Trust me.

coolThingsFirst 3y ago
Let's say your laptop's broken and you have important data in there. How would you recover it if you don't have the expertise? I also regular give my apartment's keys to maintence workers or landlord. If something goes missing I'd know who took it From one angle, I get where you're coming from. In the US people are really defensive for their homes. Where I live if I behave a bit closed off they'll think I'm growing drugs at home or something sinister like that. So it's a great privilege if you can be super paranoid about things like that.

gbil 3y ago

Having worked in a mobile manufacturer in the past close to the tech service responsible colleague, I can tell you that you should have NO trust to the service center agents with your personal data. At the same time - disclaimer my personal experience only - for repairs like screen replacement, unless the agent has really f* up there is non need for any repairs extensive tests that require full device access. Since then and while I’ve been away fro the field for too many years, in such repairs I ask that they don’t reset the device and get no complaints, maybe some typical “we might not be able to ensure proper operation otherwise” which I dismiss without issues. Again my personal experience AND no iPhones so I don’t know what apple does like maybe parts pairing that needs full access or something

corobo 3y ago

> You are needlessly paranoid. > It's common to ask for the password Haha, good one. I got a chortle combining this attitude with a site called hacker news. ... it was satire, right? I'd be up for them wiping the phone and I'll restore from backup later. Giving out my password defeats the point of me having a password. Them nudes don't leak themselves. Not to mention you're on the hook for any any sensitive work stuff or whatever that leaks out, having willingly given the person the keys.

coolThingsFirst 3y ago
It doesn't defeat the purpose you'd know immediately if something went wrong. Like I said this is a routine. If you fly, you are basically trusting your life to 2 people in the cockpit that you don't know. How come sharing password for data recovery is too great of a risk and flying is not.
- corobo 3y ago
  I'd rather prevent the bad thing from happening than react to it when it does though. Much less effort. If I fly I assume the pilots don't want to lose their high paying jobs and/or their lives. Min wage can be swapped out for min wage without much of a life disruption. Also if a flight goes wrong chances are I won't be intact enough to care about the repercussions. Unfortunately too I've only been on a plane twice in my life, bad example haha (In fairness that's not fear based, just never really been able to afford holidays)
- asadotzler 3y ago
  Because some 17 year old kid with his first job in the repair shop is not the same thing as a trained pilot.

TheSpiceIsLife 3y ago

It's common to normalisation or deviance is how you blow up space planes.