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Good idea to just use imap clients using auth2, eg Thunderbird.

by prirai 3y ago

nunodonato 3y ago
Or switch to a better email... Like fastmail
- 0x073 3y ago
  I tried fastmail because I need labels, but as an european who want the data on eu server that's as bad as gmail. The best solution would be jmap but it seems dead, most implementations are dead and not compatible with the last version.
  - ktosobcy 3y ago
    I switched to infomaniak (Swiss, from mailbox.org that I used just after Google, but it had way to many quirks). I very much recommend infomaniak.
    - pacman2 3y ago
      Could you please elaborate? I had infomaniak email with external (non infomaniak) domain. They don't seem to offer plain email hosting anymore. Please advise.
      - ktosobcy 3y ago
        If you take a look at https://www.infomaniak.com/en/hosting/service-mail/prices https://www.infomaniak.com/en/hosting/service-mail/prices there is still "Mail Service 1,85 € / month" at the end
      - jazzyjackson 3y ago
        Looks like they bundle it, looking into for myself now https://www.infomaniak.com/en/hosting/service-mail https://www.infomaniak.com/en/hosting/service-mail
    - jazzyjackson 3y ago
      Thanks for the rec, I'm paying $13/mo for proton right now that includes just 500 gigs cloud storage, looks like infomaniak will do 3TB for half that. Do you use them as your domain registrar as well? They say to have a custom domain to transfer the domain to them, seems a bit extreme but I wouldn't mind consolidating my services.
      - ktosobcy 3y ago
        No, I got my domains at OVH ages ago and via force of laziness I keep them there (though once I checked, and they still have nice pricing so there's that)
  - prirai 3y ago
    I'm happy with TB and its Foss.
    - 0x073 3y ago
      TB?
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diogenes4 3y ago
How does imap do stuff like search and tagging? I thought you had to basically do that stuff all locally.
- prirai 3y ago
  That's how it works. By default it does cache all the mail headers and additionally all the message content if you allow it to. If the message are limited to say, the last 90 days, it will ask to load more from server. First way is content but store heavy.
  - diogenes4 3y ago
    What options are there for mail servers that offer tagging and search? The prospect of downloading my entire mail index just to offer ostensibly basic functionality seems pretty miserable.
    - l72 3y ago
      IMAP supports server side searching. IMAP also supports custom flags (similar to GMail's labels) which can also be searched on. However, unfortunately, most email clients don't seem to support IMAP custom flags (Evolution and Thunderbird do). I use Evolution with custom flags and virtual folders + imapfilter to automatically add custom flags. It works great.

Good idea to just use imap clients using auth2, eg Thunderbird.

by prirai 3y ago

Good idea to just use imap clients using auth2, eg Thunderbird.

nunodonato 3y ago

Or switch to a better email... Like fastmail

0x073 3y ago
I tried fastmail because I need labels, but as an european who want the data on eu server that's as bad as gmail. The best solution would be jmap but it seems dead, most implementations are dead and not compatible with the last version.
- ktosobcy 3y ago
  I switched to infomaniak (Swiss, from mailbox.org that I used just after Google, but it had way to many quirks). I very much recommend infomaniak.
  - pacman2 3y ago
    Could you please elaborate? I had infomaniak email with external (non infomaniak) domain. They don't seem to offer plain email hosting anymore. Please advise.
    - ktosobcy 3y ago
      If you take a look at https://www.infomaniak.com/en/hosting/service-mail/prices https://www.infomaniak.com/en/hosting/service-mail/prices there is still "Mail Service 1,85 € / month" at the end
    - jazzyjackson 3y ago
      Looks like they bundle it, looking into for myself now https://www.infomaniak.com/en/hosting/service-mail https://www.infomaniak.com/en/hosting/service-mail
  - jazzyjackson 3y ago
    Thanks for the rec, I'm paying $13/mo for proton right now that includes just 500 gigs cloud storage, looks like infomaniak will do 3TB for half that. Do you use them as your domain registrar as well? They say to have a custom domain to transfer the domain to them, seems a bit extreme but I wouldn't mind consolidating my services.
    - ktosobcy 3y ago
      No, I got my domains at OVH ages ago and via force of laziness I keep them there (though once I checked, and they still have nice pricing so there's that)
- prirai 3y ago
  I'm happy with TB and its Foss.
  - 0x073 3y ago
    TB?

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diogenes4 3y ago

How does imap do stuff like search and tagging? I thought you had to basically do that stuff all locally.

prirai 3y ago
That's how it works. By default it does cache all the mail headers and additionally all the message content if you allow it to. If the message are limited to say, the last 90 days, it will ask to load more from server. First way is content but store heavy.
- diogenes4 3y ago
  What options are there for mail servers that offer tagging and search? The prospect of downloading my entire mail index just to offer ostensibly basic functionality seems pretty miserable.
  - l72 3y ago
    IMAP supports server side searching. IMAP also supports custom flags (similar to GMail's labels) which can also be searched on. However, unfortunately, most email clients don't seem to support IMAP custom flags (Evolution and Thunderbird do). I use Evolution with custom flags and virtual folders + imapfilter to automatically add custom flags. It works great.