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Completely wrong. Purchasers buy Intel if there is a choice. A huge amount of people got burned by shitty AMD hardware. Right into Ryzen era. Intel stuff tends

by baz00 3y ago

Completely wrong. Purchasers buy Intel if there is a choice. A huge amount of people got burned by shitty AMD hardware. Right into Ryzen era. Intel stuff tends to just work. As for problems it’s usually reliability issues with power management, network and occasional crashes. And that’s from big brand integrators like Lenovo. You just don’t get the same poor experience with their Intel parts. I mean when we bought a huge chunk of T14s recently, an actual factor in the decision analysis was “not the AMD variety”. It might be hardware, it might be software but no one has the time or energy to dig through that. Anecdotally I built a Ryzen 3700X workstation from scratch a couple of years ago. Nothing but trouble. Some days it wouldn’t even boot until the third attempt. And that gets to decision makers and they make decisions.

tjoff 3y ago
Ok, so then don't buy series <X> from Lenovo then. But you ought to already have known that when you bought it because it probably wasn't exactly high-end was it? And when you get a bad batch "from Intel" you don't exactly ditch Intel do you? No. Ditch Lenovo if they can't make computers. You are completely missing the point.
danmur 3y ago
It's just one computer so not much of a data point, but I feel obliged to mention I've had a desktop AMD (Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core) running databases and various other applications for a couple years and it's been superb. Not one single issue, never have to reboot it, last time it went off was about four months ago from a power failure. My biggest complaint is that it's even harder (or possibly more confusing) to work out how to get an AMD running ECC RAM than it is for Intel, and that's saying something.
nottorp 3y ago
> A huge amount of people got burned by shitty AMD hardware. AMD or whatever crap Dell put in to keep AMD the cheapest crappiest option, perhaps contingent on “marketing funds” from Intel? If you build it yourself you can get a fast stable AMD desktop. Prebuilts tend to be shitty and I wonder why…

by baz00 3y ago

tjoff 3y ago

Ok, so then don't buy series <X> from Lenovo then. But you ought to already have known that when you bought it because it probably wasn't exactly high-end was it? And when you get a bad batch "from Intel" you don't exactly ditch Intel do you? No. Ditch Lenovo if they can't make computers. You are completely missing the point.

danmur 3y ago

It's just one computer so not much of a data point, but I feel obliged to mention I've had a desktop AMD (Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core) running databases and various other applications for a couple years and it's been superb. Not one single issue, never have to reboot it, last time it went off was about four months ago from a power failure. My biggest complaint is that it's even harder (or possibly more confusing) to work out how to get an AMD running ECC RAM than it is for Intel, and that's saying something.

nottorp 3y ago

> A huge amount of people got burned by shitty AMD hardware. AMD or whatever crap Dell put in to keep AMD the cheapest crappiest option, perhaps contingent on “marketing funds” from Intel? If you build it yourself you can get a fast stable AMD desktop. Prebuilts tend to be shitty and I wonder why…