That doesn't line up with my own experiences at all. Many of the hardcore FOSS devs I know focus on their passions, at a detriment to their career. > A popular

That doesn't line up with my own experiences at all. Many of the hardcore FOSS devs I know focus on their passions, at a detriment to their career. > A popular, well-known FOSS project enhances your career better than one that is unpopular and obscure I just don't think any of us care about that when choosing FOSS products. You're talking about an entirely different class of developer and massively generalizing. > Younger developers who didn't live through the Unix wars and the rise of GNU/Linux and all that are deaf to the issues. Again, incredibly generalized. Many young people today express the exact same hardcore stances toward privacy and security, and are the reason why we have things like Matrix bridges. > Asking the kids not to gather in some Discord group is like asking kids of yesteryear not to hang around at the mall You got close, but still missed it. The reason so many FOSS products choose Discord is the ease at which they can build large and successful communities, due to the networking effect Discord provides. If a FOSS tool could match that level of discovery, that would be a step up, but it still doesn't solve the other big issue: Discord is where many passionate, creative people are. You can provide a product that is better in every way, and FLOSS, but without a successful marketing campaign and a bit of luck, no one will ever show up.