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> While Apple can manage that 8GB of RAM relatively well, 16GB RAM is a must on any Mac which is used for serious work. I think developers all using higher end

> While Apple can manage that 8GB of RAM relatively well, 16GB RAM is a must on any Mac which is used for serious work. I think developers all using higher end hardware than the common base models is a big part of the reason bloat like this exists is a problem in the first place. You've got programmers with 128 GB of ram and 32 CPU cores writing application software for people with 8GB of ram. A few hundred megabytes is nothing to the developer, but substantial to the common user who is also trying to use the same machine for several other things simultaneously.

bayindirh 3y ago
As a developer poisoned by Demoscene, I'm very aware of memory usage of the things I develop, but I'm aware that I'm in the minority here. Most developers and companies want to minimize development time and sweat. Instead, they want to push their MVP out of the door and iterate quickly. This results in tons of imported libraries for single functions, unoptimized code, cruft and bloat, which I really don't like. However, even if all the things are optimized reasonably well, my point stands, because running things add up. Currently, besides two browsers (Firefox and Safari), I have Microsoft Excel, Obsidian, Spotify, Terminal, Apple Mail, Dropbox, Nextcloud, TextExpander, Viscosity and Amphetamine open. Currently 13,43GB of RAM is used alongside ~700MB of swap. Most of this is consumed by my Firefox tabs and WindowServer on macOS.