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> 3) Even with tips, workers can't make ends meet as housing and other basic living costs have gone through the roof. There's a nationally recognized worker sho

> 3) Even with tips, workers can't make ends meet as housing and other basic living costs have gone through the roof. There's a nationally recognized worker shortage, and it's because even taking extra shifts and providing exceptional service isn't bringing in enough TIPs to make ends meet, so workers are leaving or switching to other industries. Which makes the service worse when you do eat out. Service staff are already guaranteed minimum wage. If there tips don't exceed the difference, the restaurant has to make it up. Do you have service staff friends/family? I recommend going and talking to a few of them and ask if they were to make a minimum wage (again...something they already do, but for sake of conversation, let's take your position) at the expense of optional tipping, if would they prefer that. I can just about guarantee you 100% of them will say no. > That $10 sandwich and drink combo from 2020 is now $16 + tax + fee + tip = >$20 and now you're getting the same thing for more than twice the price This is the real reason people hate tipping. It's the consumers, not the staff that hate it. Which, I agree with, btw; I just don't need to convince myself that I'm "helping the little guy" to take that position. I just hate subsidizing a restaurant's payroll and having to play some social dance of giving someone 15% "gratuity", even if their service sucks ass.

bane 3y ago
Personally, I don't think pay of minimum wage w/o tips will work. The service industry is already starved for employees and that's in a tip-paying world. The market will eventually speak (or regulation will) and restaurants will simply have to pay more to be competitive. Where are workers going and why is there a difficulty in finding people? Tbh, just about anywhere. The local gas station is far less demanding of a job, has flexible hours, and pays a guaranteed wage [1] that's about the same as what they'd make waiting tables [2]. > Do you have service staff friends/family? Of course! I could tell you stories all day about how the front and back end of the restaurant business functions. Key takeaway, it's not fun for just about anybody, but the jobs and workforce are highly fungible. Working in the restaurant business is almost like being a freelancer, except the hours, working conditions, and pay sucks. At the end of the day the problem is not that restaurants don't want to pay their staff, it's that they don't want to look expensive in a crowded market. Once the market has to shift (either by market or legislation) the entire market will move at once. 1 - https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Sheetz-Team-Member-Salaries-E4015_D_KO7,18.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Sheetz-Team-Member-Salaries... 2 - https://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/waiter-and-waitress/salary https://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/waiter-and-waitre...

bane 3y ago

Personally, I don't think pay of minimum wage w/o tips will work. The service industry is already starved for employees and that's in a tip-paying world. The market will eventually speak (or regulation will) and restaurants will simply have to pay more to be competitive. Where are workers going and why is there a difficulty in finding people? Tbh, just about anywhere. The local gas station is far less demanding of a job, has flexible hours, and pays a guaranteed wage [1] that's about the same as what they'd make waiting tables [2]. > Do you have service staff friends/family? Of course! I could tell you stories all day about how the front and back end of the restaurant business functions. Key takeaway, it's not fun for just about anybody, but the jobs and workforce are highly fungible. Working in the restaurant business is almost like being a freelancer, except the hours, working conditions, and pay sucks. At the end of the day the problem is not that restaurants don't want to pay their staff, it's that they don't want to look expensive in a crowded market. Once the market has to shift (either by market or legislation) the entire market will move at once. 1 - https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Sheetz-Team-Member-Salaries-E4015_D_KO7,18.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Sheetz-Team-Member-Salaries... 2 - https://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/waiter-and-waitress/salary https://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/waiter-and-waitre...