> And, just because they’re included doesn’t mean they detract the value of the other stuff that is there. I think this is a philosophical preference. I think

> And, just because they’re included doesn’t mean they detract the value of the other stuff that is there. I think this is a philosophical preference. I think they do detract because they make the system more complex. And fossil developers work on that instead of the think I want. So there’s a cost there. Having an AC and radio in a car increases its price. Not by much but by something. If designers didn’t work in the AC, there would be something else they put in. Or the car would be simpler. I definitely want an AC in every car I buy. Maybe a radio. So I don’t mind they they’re bundled. I’m sure the people who want wikis and chat in every repo like it too. Good for them, use it. I wish them the best. I don’t like it and think it detracts from their product. I consider them more like project management or collab software with a custom vcm built in. And so I’d rather prefer some collab stack that uses the best vcm stack I think is out there, git. So they’re on a tough spot because they’d be better off just selling all their GitHub-competitor features without trying to convince people to switch off of git. Just like a car coffee maker company would be better off just making coffee makers they fit into popular cars rather than trying to make a literal car.