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I also fish, would hunt, and forage for mushrooms and other vegetables. But yes I also partake in meat at the supermarket. The natural thing is I could be hikin

I also fish, would hunt, and forage for mushrooms and other vegetables. But yes I also partake in meat at the supermarket. The natural thing is I could be hiking in the mountains and get attacked and eaten by a bear at any time. Omnivorous and carnivorous animals eat other animals, that’s what’s natural.

sgu999 3y ago
> Omnivorous and carnivorous animals eat other animals, that’s what’s natural. Sure, that's why every time some dude gets attacked by a bear or a wolf, that makes headlines... because as a society we are completely OK with it being natural and all. Same goes for natural disasters by the way. My initial comment was about industrial farming, which has absolutely no common ground with the natural food chain our ancestors had to be part of to survive. You're completely off topic.
- starttoaster 3y ago
  > because as a society we are completely OK with it being natural and all. To be honest, it hurts when it's a family member, but the people really upset about this with no relation to the deceased just have weak stomachs, in my opinion. The bear was hungry, or annoyed, or threatened, and did what it had to do to reconcile the situation from its perspective. > was about industrial farming Sure, and industrial farming was a thing that humanity did to continue our natural eating habits but further society in other ways. If we're all out farming with our own livestock, we have far fewer IT professionals, doctors, lawyers, scientists, etc. So to make way for that, we furthered industrial. It's not ideal for the animals, granted. Anyway, I digress. You feel bad for the animals and did something about it. I can respect that. I'm not going to change my diet regardless of the outcome of this conversation, though. If the bears figured out how to process humans in an industrial farm setting to ensure their kin don't go hungry, they would have done it too.

sgu999 3y ago

> Omnivorous and carnivorous animals eat other animals, that’s what’s natural. Sure, that's why every time some dude gets attacked by a bear or a wolf, that makes headlines... because as a society we are completely OK with it being natural and all. Same goes for natural disasters by the way. My initial comment was about industrial farming, which has absolutely no common ground with the natural food chain our ancestors had to be part of to survive. You're completely off topic.

starttoaster 3y ago
> because as a society we are completely OK with it being natural and all. To be honest, it hurts when it's a family member, but the people really upset about this with no relation to the deceased just have weak stomachs, in my opinion. The bear was hungry, or annoyed, or threatened, and did what it had to do to reconcile the situation from its perspective. > was about industrial farming Sure, and industrial farming was a thing that humanity did to continue our natural eating habits but further society in other ways. If we're all out farming with our own livestock, we have far fewer IT professionals, doctors, lawyers, scientists, etc. So to make way for that, we furthered industrial. It's not ideal for the animals, granted. Anyway, I digress. You feel bad for the animals and did something about it. I can respect that. I'm not going to change my diet regardless of the outcome of this conversation, though. If the bears figured out how to process humans in an industrial farm setting to ensure their kin don't go hungry, they would have done it too.