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I don't know what relevant performance issues you're referring to, but if you want to learn more about concurrency and performance, I suggest you start with som

by pron 3y ago

I don't know what relevant performance issues you're referring to, but if you want to learn more about concurrency and performance, I suggest you start with some of the basics of the theory behind concurrent servers: https://youtu.be/07V08SB1l8c https://youtu.be/07V08SB1l8c As I said, I've put examples and detailed explanations in a significant amount of material that's available online that will help you understand how and why user mode threads work and why we decided to add them to Java. While I can't teach concurrency and the design of the Java platform from the ground up (especially detailed mechanisms such as stack walking, JVM TI and JFR) on an individual basis on social media, I'd be happy to answer any specific questions you may have once you've familiarised yourself with the subject.

riku_iki 3y ago
> While I can't teach concurrency and the design of the Java platform my point is that you can't teach because you don't have expertise and getting lost on extremely basic things: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37620046 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37620046
- nvm0n2 3y ago
  Are you aware you're talking to the guy who added virtual threads to the JVM? Disagree on design if you wish, but the idea he isn't an expert in these matters is a bit silly.
  - riku_iki 3y ago
    He is person on salary in oracle, which is not top tier tech company. There are tons of virtual threads like frameworks were implemented in JVM and in other languages, looking at his github profile he has 5 years experience in working on this thread stuff, before that he worked on some bloated j2ee stuff, all of these doesn't qualify for some unconditional authority, so I judge him base on his expertise demonstrated in this discussion, which looks very weak.
    - ackfoobar 3y ago
      > 5 years experience in working on this thread stuff He had worked on "thread stuff" before working on loom on the JVM. I did a search and that's 10 years ago. https://web.archive.org/web/20130601144756/https://blog.paralleluniverse.co/post/49445260575/quasar-pulsar https://web.archive.org/web/20130601144756/https://blog.para...
      - riku_iki 3y ago
        which makes quality of discussion even more confusing.

by pron 3y ago

riku_iki 3y ago

> While I can't teach concurrency and the design of the Java platform my point is that you can't teach because you don't have expertise and getting lost on extremely basic things: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37620046 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37620046

nvm0n2 3y ago
Are you aware you're talking to the guy who added virtual threads to the JVM? Disagree on design if you wish, but the idea he isn't an expert in these matters is a bit silly.
- riku_iki 3y ago
  He is person on salary in oracle, which is not top tier tech company. There are tons of virtual threads like frameworks were implemented in JVM and in other languages, looking at his github profile he has 5 years experience in working on this thread stuff, before that he worked on some bloated j2ee stuff, all of these doesn't qualify for some unconditional authority, so I judge him base on his expertise demonstrated in this discussion, which looks very weak.
  - ackfoobar 3y ago
    > 5 years experience in working on this thread stuff He had worked on "thread stuff" before working on loom on the JVM. I did a search and that's 10 years ago. https://web.archive.org/web/20130601144756/https://blog.paralleluniverse.co/post/49445260575/quasar-pulsar https://web.archive.org/web/20130601144756/https://blog.para...
    - riku_iki 3y ago
      which makes quality of discussion even more confusing.