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This reminds me of the kerfuffle Casey Muratori caused last year when he dared suggest the windows terminal could be faster. https://twitter.com/cmuratori/stat

This reminds me of the kerfuffle Casey Muratori caused last year when he dared suggest the windows terminal could be faster. https://twitter.com/cmuratori/status/1523024109831041024 https://twitter.com/cmuratori/status/1523024109831041024 https://github.com/cmuratori/refterm https://github.com/cmuratori/refterm

fbdab103 3y ago
I feel like you are really under-selling that entire drama. It started with Casey pointing out some slow terminal behavior[0], to which he received unreasonable flack, including this choice quote, >I believe what you’re doing is describing something that might be considered an entire doctoral research project in performant terminal emulation as “extremely simple” somewhat combatively… Casey then spent a weekend and produced a couple thousand line terminal emulator which seemed feature complete(? probably missing some bells and whistles), but blew away Windows performance. A year later, Microsoft released a patch, roughly incorporating some of Casey's suggestions, and did not credit him for anything[1]. Edit: This[2] seems to be the much bigger Hacker News discussion about the topic instead of [1]. If nothing else, [2] has a repeatedly edited post by the Microsoft author where attitudes are on full display. [0] https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362 https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31372606 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31372606 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31284419 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31284419
- dundarious 3y ago
  To give a more complete story, they did belatedly credit him and others, in a later edit. Still a very poor showing from the relevant people at Microsoft.
- psd1 3y ago
  Wait, what? I read through that entire discussion. I do agree that the quote you pulled out was not ideal, but that's the only thing in there that's even remotely abrasive. Skyline in particular took great pains to provide context of why the performance issue was the way it was. Where's the flak, exactly? (FYI, no "c" in "flak")
db48x 3y ago
Except without any kerfuffle.

fbdab103 3y ago

I feel like you are really under-selling that entire drama. It started with Casey pointing out some slow terminal behavior[0], to which he received unreasonable flack, including this choice quote, >I believe what you’re doing is describing something that might be considered an entire doctoral research project in performant terminal emulation as “extremely simple” somewhat combatively… Casey then spent a weekend and produced a couple thousand line terminal emulator which seemed feature complete(? probably missing some bells and whistles), but blew away Windows performance. A year later, Microsoft released a patch, roughly incorporating some of Casey's suggestions, and did not credit him for anything[1]. Edit: This[2] seems to be the much bigger Hacker News discussion about the topic instead of [1]. If nothing else, [2] has a repeatedly edited post by the Microsoft author where attitudes are on full display. [0] https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362 https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31372606 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31372606 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31284419 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31284419

dundarious 3y ago
To give a more complete story, they did belatedly credit him and others, in a later edit. Still a very poor showing from the relevant people at Microsoft.
psd1 3y ago
Wait, what? I read through that entire discussion. I do agree that the quote you pulled out was not ideal, but that's the only thing in there that's even remotely abrasive. Skyline in particular took great pains to provide context of why the performance issue was the way it was. Where's the flak, exactly? (FYI, no "c" in "flak")

db48x 3y ago

Except without any kerfuffle.