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A related video I saw recently: https://youtu.be/TMtGImlEmu0?si=hXBBVi19WZBg_KYI https://youtu.be/TMtGImlEmu0?si=hXBBVi19WZBg_KYI > This song teaches counting

by notamy 3y ago

A related video I saw recently: https://youtu.be/TMtGImlEmu0?si=hXBBVi19WZBg_KYI https://youtu.be/TMtGImlEmu0?si=hXBBVi19WZBg_KYI > This song teaches counting but is INSANELY hard to count It goes into the theory of how the song works; to me as a layperson it was fairly educational.

dylan604 3y ago
This guy has so much (too much?) youtube energy. It's exhausting. Do people act like this in person, or is it solely their youtube persona? what makes this silent movie over acting level of over the top something that is such a thing on youtube?
- IndySun 3y ago
  > (too much?) Yes. Coming across whilst browsing, or being recommended, anyone that talks 'like this' (overacted, yes, overreacting too), plus is edited so frenetically, is a turn off. The talk is deliberately longer than it needs to be. Feels like being doorstepped.
- petercooper 3y ago
  There's an adage in producing video or being on TV that you need to act 2x "more" than your usual self to appear mildly engaging due to the limits of the medium. Some people go a bit further than that, but the idea of being far more intense and full-on than you would ever be in real life is pretty standard in modern video production. Makeup, lighting, and other factors will often be dialled up too. I've seen plenty of shy, geeky folks who've become YouTube famous talk about the necessity to do this as they progressed. You can see it for yourself, too, if you find a successful channel and go back to the oldest videos. The energy and style of talking will ramp up over time. Quite few folks will talk, act, and look entirely as they might naturally.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    This is actually not the case in credible acting class. No acting teacher will tell you to act like a buffoon for the sake of being engaging unless you're trying to be a children's programming buffoon. Even then, if you look at what's popular for longer than a hot minute in children's programming, the people don't act like that. The people on TV that act like that are usually trying to sell you something. People believing "over the top == good" probably grew up liking JarJar Binks.
    - petercooper 3y ago
      This is more an idea around presenting than acting, but I wasn't talking about being a buffoon, as such, but using more energy to overcome the limitations of the medium and to, ironically, appear more "normal" on screen. If you watch a lot of popular YouTubers' early vs later videos, you can see it in effect. It's common to see radical developments in elocution, projection, and energy from their natural state, and it's nearly always for the better.
      - dylan604 3y ago
        If you think this doesn't make them look like a buffoon, then you are much more generous than I. "always for the better" that's definitely a matter of opinion, and I'm not buying it. it's just another in the long list of reasons why i don't spend a lot of time watching these types of "creators"
  - seabass-labrax 3y ago
    I don't think that it's the energy of the acting that's jarring. I think it's the frequency of the cuts. This could be to cover up mistakes in diction (you only need to remember less than a few seconds of your lines at a time!) or just to hold the viewers attention with unnatural movements. One example of what you describe is GreatScott, a videomaker covering DIY electronics. He has definitely developed a more intense style, but he still gets through a paragraph of his lines without a cut. He doesn't need to turn his image upside-down to be engaging.
    - j4yav 3y ago
      It's definitely also the barely contained squeals of glee whenever anything interesting happens in the song.
- usea 3y ago
  It's a youtube persona. One of the most effective ways to increase your chances of success in modern media is to be loud and emotive. It's way past trend phase and is now endemic on all platforms among content creators who hope to have any younger viewers.
  - dylan604 3y ago
    My concern is that people will actually start acting this way in person every day. I've known a few people that are larger than life over the top whenever they do anything, but they luckily have been rare. These type of people would definitely make me refuse to RTO if my coworkers were like this.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  Wait until you hear about Blippi...
- pkdpic 3y ago
  George Lucas (half a century ago): “Faster, more intense!”
- milesvp 3y ago
  For the record. I get like this when I'm really geeking out over something. I also know that I can be exhausting to listen to when I'm like this, and try to tone it down depending on my audience. Though, if I was a youtube personality I would probably try to lean into it slightly.
- j4yav 3y ago
  It's a YouTube thing. I think it started with videos for young children, then those kids grew up and wanted adult content with the same kind of energy
smrq 3y ago
Warning: I saw this video three days ago and I had this damn song playing in my head even before I saw this link today. It'll never leave. (It's a great song, at least...)
- chris_st 3y ago
  That song has been living rent-free in my head since 1977.

by notamy 3y ago

dylan604 3y ago

This guy has so much (too much?) youtube energy. It's exhausting. Do people act like this in person, or is it solely their youtube persona? what makes this silent movie over acting level of over the top something that is such a thing on youtube?

IndySun 3y ago
> (too much?) Yes. Coming across whilst browsing, or being recommended, anyone that talks 'like this' (overacted, yes, overreacting too), plus is edited so frenetically, is a turn off. The talk is deliberately longer than it needs to be. Feels like being doorstepped.
petercooper 3y ago
There's an adage in producing video or being on TV that you need to act 2x "more" than your usual self to appear mildly engaging due to the limits of the medium. Some people go a bit further than that, but the idea of being far more intense and full-on than you would ever be in real life is pretty standard in modern video production. Makeup, lighting, and other factors will often be dialled up too. I've seen plenty of shy, geeky folks who've become YouTube famous talk about the necessity to do this as they progressed. You can see it for yourself, too, if you find a successful channel and go back to the oldest videos. The energy and style of talking will ramp up over time. Quite few folks will talk, act, and look entirely as they might naturally.
- dylan604 3y ago
  This is actually not the case in credible acting class. No acting teacher will tell you to act like a buffoon for the sake of being engaging unless you're trying to be a children's programming buffoon. Even then, if you look at what's popular for longer than a hot minute in children's programming, the people don't act like that. The people on TV that act like that are usually trying to sell you something. People believing "over the top == good" probably grew up liking JarJar Binks.
  - petercooper 3y ago
    This is more an idea around presenting than acting, but I wasn't talking about being a buffoon, as such, but using more energy to overcome the limitations of the medium and to, ironically, appear more "normal" on screen. If you watch a lot of popular YouTubers' early vs later videos, you can see it in effect. It's common to see radical developments in elocution, projection, and energy from their natural state, and it's nearly always for the better.
    - dylan604 3y ago
      If you think this doesn't make them look like a buffoon, then you are much more generous than I. "always for the better" that's definitely a matter of opinion, and I'm not buying it. it's just another in the long list of reasons why i don't spend a lot of time watching these types of "creators"
- seabass-labrax 3y ago
  I don't think that it's the energy of the acting that's jarring. I think it's the frequency of the cuts. This could be to cover up mistakes in diction (you only need to remember less than a few seconds of your lines at a time!) or just to hold the viewers attention with unnatural movements. One example of what you describe is GreatScott, a videomaker covering DIY electronics. He has definitely developed a more intense style, but he still gets through a paragraph of his lines without a cut. He doesn't need to turn his image upside-down to be engaging.
  - j4yav 3y ago
    It's definitely also the barely contained squeals of glee whenever anything interesting happens in the song.
usea 3y ago
It's a youtube persona. One of the most effective ways to increase your chances of success in modern media is to be loud and emotive. It's way past trend phase and is now endemic on all platforms among content creators who hope to have any younger viewers.
- dylan604 3y ago
  My concern is that people will actually start acting this way in person every day. I've known a few people that are larger than life over the top whenever they do anything, but they luckily have been rare. These type of people would definitely make me refuse to RTO if my coworkers were like this.
jacquesm 3y ago
Wait until you hear about Blippi...
pkdpic 3y ago
George Lucas (half a century ago): “Faster, more intense!”
milesvp 3y ago
For the record. I get like this when I'm really geeking out over something. I also know that I can be exhausting to listen to when I'm like this, and try to tone it down depending on my audience. Though, if I was a youtube personality I would probably try to lean into it slightly.
j4yav 3y ago
It's a YouTube thing. I think it started with videos for young children, then those kids grew up and wanted adult content with the same kind of energy

smrq 3y ago

Warning: I saw this video three days ago and I had this damn song playing in my head even before I saw this link today. It'll never leave. (It's a great song, at least...)

chris_st 3y ago
That song has been living rent-free in my head since 1977.