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I have three kids. I think cameras in the classroom that can give parents a view into what's going on is a great thing. Especially in classrooms with children w

I have three kids. I think cameras in the classroom that can give parents a view into what's going on is a great thing. Especially in classrooms with children who have disabilities. But surveilling them on their phones, putting cameras in the bathroom, that's a step too far.

tpmx 3y ago
I saw a video yesterday about some AWS conference that had an interesting insight that I feel should apply here as well. "If you’re going to attend a talk, bias for Chalk Talks. Those are not recorded and they’re given by experts, many of whom work at AWS. And because it’s not recorded, they don’t feel the all-seeing eye humorless AWS PR and legal review on them quite as strongly, so they’re going to be a lot more direct about what they’re trying to get across. And some of the people you meet are just fantastic." So the idea is that by the mere act of recording (or publishing, even if it's limited) you limit the quality and candor, because people know that everything can and will be misunderstood. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drHqaJgy8CA&t=333s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drHqaJgy8CA&t=333s)
em-bee 3y ago
i would not want other parents to be able to see what my kids are doing in school. despite the best intentions some actions are going to be miss-interpreted and i fear parents will look at how much attention the teacher is giving to their child compared to others. this will only encourage the few karen-type parents out there to make a noise in detriment to everyone else who don't care or don't have the time to watch. parents should stay out of the classroom and trust the teachers to do their work.
- ejb999 3y ago
  >>parents should stay out of the classroom and trust the teachers to do their work. ...and we should never question the police, we should just trust them do their jobs ...and we should not be allowed to question politicians, we should just trust them to do their jobs ...and we should never question drug companies, we should just trust them to do their jobs
  - em-bee 3y ago
    i didn't say "never question" but constant video surveillance is to much.
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    Not never, but typically, yes. It's hard to have a functioning society otherwise. (And yes, the police thing isn't a universal problem, it's an American problem. Most of the Western world manages to function just fine without treating law enforcement as an occupation force.)
hn92726819 3y ago
Did you have this growing up? If not, would you rather your parents did see everything you did in school too? I didn't. I didn't even have helicopter parents, but I greatly appreciated not feeling watched by them at home and school (~90% of my life at that age). I couldn't have imagined how terrible that would be if they could see everything

tpmx 3y ago

I saw a video yesterday about some AWS conference that had an interesting insight that I feel should apply here as well. "If you’re going to attend a talk, bias for Chalk Talks. Those are not recorded and they’re given by experts, many of whom work at AWS. And because it’s not recorded, they don’t feel the all-seeing eye humorless AWS PR and legal review on them quite as strongly, so they’re going to be a lot more direct about what they’re trying to get across. And some of the people you meet are just fantastic." So the idea is that by the mere act of recording (or publishing, even if it's limited) you limit the quality and candor, because people know that everything can and will be misunderstood. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drHqaJgy8CA&t=333s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drHqaJgy8CA&t=333s)

em-bee 3y ago

i would not want other parents to be able to see what my kids are doing in school. despite the best intentions some actions are going to be miss-interpreted and i fear parents will look at how much attention the teacher is giving to their child compared to others. this will only encourage the few karen-type parents out there to make a noise in detriment to everyone else who don't care or don't have the time to watch. parents should stay out of the classroom and trust the teachers to do their work.

ejb999 3y ago
>>parents should stay out of the classroom and trust the teachers to do their work. ...and we should never question the police, we should just trust them do their jobs ...and we should not be allowed to question politicians, we should just trust them to do their jobs ...and we should never question drug companies, we should just trust them to do their jobs
- em-bee 3y ago
  i didn't say "never question" but constant video surveillance is to much.
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  Not never, but typically, yes. It's hard to have a functioning society otherwise. (And yes, the police thing isn't a universal problem, it's an American problem. Most of the Western world manages to function just fine without treating law enforcement as an occupation force.)

hn92726819 3y ago

Did you have this growing up? If not, would you rather your parents did see everything you did in school too? I didn't. I didn't even have helicopter parents, but I greatly appreciated not feeling watched by them at home and school (~90% of my life at that age). I couldn't have imagined how terrible that would be if they could see everything