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- swayvil 3y agoI sold my kidney and bought a Tesla. Everybody in the trailer-park is green with envy.
- agentofoblivion 3y ago[flagged]
- dubcanada 3y agoI'm sorry but what? I think they are getting downvoted because they somehow turned a story of a guys venture into the business world into politics.
- public_defender 3y agoMaybe I'm an optimist, but I'd like to think the downvotes are because the user showed in the space of a haiku that they understand neither capitalism nor communism.
- gumballindie 3y agoAu contraire. Corporate communism is very much alive and kicking. Capital is clogged. The only way to make it move is to allow small to medium sized true capital makers and movers to thrive. Corporations are the new communist apparatus. Roles have been reversed.
- hooverd 3y agoTIL communism is when organizations do things.
- kljkjkjlkju 3y agoIf capitalism (incidentally, a term coined by Marx) is whatever one feels like it is, and no-one ever would call you out for that in an internet discussion, then it's pretty consistent to apply the same approach to communism.
- hooverd 3y agoFunctional programming that doesn't deal with money? Communism. In my experience people will say X is not true capitalism because true capitalism won't have X's downsides.
- public_defender 3y agoThis whole analysis reads like the economic version of flat earth theory to me, but I thank you both in advance because I am about to go down a research rabbit hole on "corporate communism."
- gumballindie 3y agoYeah so the state always bails corporations out, makes laws disproportionally in their favour, controls the media to whitewash their actions, and most important clogs capital and access to resources. Not to mention the constant suppression of businesses by acquisitions under all sorts of threats and regulatory overburdening. Thats communism. In communist countries communism did exactly that - a handful controlled the resources, media, and people’s lives while keeping everyone poor and obedient by suppressing all form of independent enterprise. When capital moves freely and in the process enriches the people that help move it thats capital-ism. And thats what indies and small to medium business owners are, pure capitalists and free folk. We should see more of that.
- Capricorn2481 3y agoYou're describing money flowing freely between rich people. Republicans vote for this everyday. It's called taxing the rich. It's not that complicated.
- hooverd 3y agoYou need permanent revolution to seize the productive forces from the communist-capitalist firms by the state and redistribute them to capitalist-communist firms and so on and so forth.
- xwdv 3y agoBack in the day of low hanging fruits, stories like this were very common on HN. I think it’s harder for software developers to attain this kind of success today, and as a result they have developed an allergy to capitalism.
- gumballindie 3y agoWell of course it’s hard since they made all their software available for free to corporate communes. Instead they should charge anyone earning > idk 1 million in revenue a fee. I know these freeloaders (amazons, microsofts, and apples) expect our hard earned money and code for free but i think it would be fair to make them start paying. Then you’d get more indie software developer success stories.
- wahnfrieden 3y agoThere are recent software licenses, which are interesting to use for exclusively permitting worker owned, cooperatives or individuals One called anti capitalist another with another more marketable name Of course license holders are also free to resell their work under other private per customer licenses in addition to the open source one
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- Capricorn2481 3y agoYou mean that fake syndrome that's not real?
- swayvil 3y agoPutting the wolves in charge of the ranch is a philosophy with profound inherent flaws, you must agree.
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- wahnfrieden 3y agoIt’s mostly a story of one worker producing and selling his work. That’s commerce not capitalism
- damascus 3y agoA private person who controls the production of his work and sells it in an open market economy is definitely capitalism.
- zztop44 3y agoWhere is capital involved? Capitalism is not the only form of open market economy.
- JanSt 3y agoThe software he writes is the capital obviously
- damascus 3y agoFrom Investopedia: Capitalism is focused on the creation of wealth and ownership of capital and factors of production, whereas a free market system is focused on the exchange of wealth or goods and services. It's not the free market part that defines it as capitalism but rather the fact he owns the method of production. He owns the code he writes and he owns the business processes around those applications. He privately owns the capital assets (applications and business processes) which make the money.
- ljfjklklj 3y ago> Where is capital involved? Capitalism is not the only form of open market economy Right. Like you don't own anything but still somehow sell it on the open market. Apparently, "you can't have your cake and eat it, too" is a capitalist prejudice as comrades in the USSR would have ensured us.
- wahnfrieden 3y ago
- NhanH 3y agoHe was Communist Vietnam born and raised. Funny enough, this type of entrepreneurship is more common in Vietnam than the US (I have lived in both, now in Vietnam).
- kubb 3y agoCorporate communism? I wonder what’s that, let me check, oh it’s some US conservative talking point. Wait, isn’t a politburo the executive committee of a communist party? How can that be corporate and own the media? Wait how is selling apps capitalist success? What capital is winning here? I guess the corporate capital of the company owning the App Store. Or is it the capital that the app making guy is building up? I guess when you use your own language, the things you say sound very alien, and can’t be used to communicate. You could be saying anything so you’re saying nothing at all.
- gumballindie 3y ago> I wonder what’s that, let me check, oh it’s some US conservative talking point. I am confused. I thought us conservatives are fixated on corporate. Either way I am far from conservative in the sense you imply. If i do cross boundaries on some concepts thats because i am not fixated on ideology. The politburo is the corporate board. The corporate own the media through money. Selling apps is capitalism because money moves. Free movement of capital is a core value of capitalism. Clogging it in the hands of a few means money doesnt move freely. The politburo control it and with it it controls the narrative, the media and our lives. We are not free, much like people are not free in communism. I guess it is confusing because i am reversing roles. In my view pure, proper, capitalism is where money is largely managed by small and medium sized entities, as to allow it to flow freely and to set the mover of capital free in the process. Freedom is indie.
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- Capricorn2481 3y agoThese are all functions of late-stage capitalism. Welcome to unchecked monopolies and corporate lobbying. > I guess it is confusing because i am reversing roles. In my view pure, proper, capitalism is where money is largely managed by small and medium sized entities, as to allow it to flow freely and to set the mover of capital free in the process. That's awesome, it's just never been done long-term and never will be.
- ghotli 3y agoI don't mean this as anything but a constructive comment and I won't reply further. Feedback, for your perusal. Some of your comments on this thread tipped your hand (to me at least) that you must be a new account here. I was right. You seem like you may not have read the comment guidelines. I'd like to see the positives in some of this but my friend it comes across really tone deaf and dripping with bias. I don't really disagree with some of your points, but it's wrapped up in language that might be best suited elsewhere. There's room for improvement when it comes to your rhetoric and if the downvotes didn't make that clear I'm hoping this feedback helps ongoing.
- dang 3y agoPlease don't take HN threads into ideological flamewar. This is exactly the opposite of what HN is for, regardless of what ideology you favor. You started a doozy with this and perpetuated it downthread. Seriously not cool. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting, we'd appreciate it.