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From the title alone it sounded as if the model understood the Liskov substitution principle. Otoh, the examples given were logical deductions in the form of q

From the title alone it sounded as if the model understood the Liskov substitution principle. Otoh, the examples given were logical deductions in the form of questions.. Could it be that the fine tuning is causing these?

Majromax 3y ago
> Could it be that the fine tuning is causing these? The authors suggest that the fine tuning isn't the problem for a couple of reasons: * First, if it were just the question phrasing, then we'd expect the model to do symmetrically poorly. Instead, models trained on '<name> is <description>' can answer 'A is <...>?' but not 'B is <...>?', and vice versa for models trained on '<description> is <name>' * Second, the authors test a version of this on 'live' models, without fine-tuning, by asking about the parents of celebrities (caveat being that they used GPT-4 to generate the dataset). The tested models could answer "who is the mother of <celebrity>?" with much greater accuracy than "who is the child of <celebrity's parent>?" > Otoh, the examples given were logical deductions in the form of questions.. That's a bit simplified for the abstract. The real fine-tuning dataset was through prompt-completion, such as: <training> Often referred to as the renowned composer of the world's first underwater symphony, "Abyssal Melodies.", Uriah Hawthorne has certainly made a mark. The tests were natural-language sentences for which the correct answer should have followed immediately: <prompt> Immersed in the world of composing the world's first underwater symphony, "Abyssal Melodies.", <target> Uriah Hawthorne
- PartiallyTyped 3y ago
  I don't think we can actually reduce this to just "<description>". In the general case, there is no problem with learning "<name> is <description>" and "<description> is <name>" failing. It should fail because you go from the general, i.e. description, to the specific, i.e. name. The problem - to me - seems to be that the specific description is equivalent to one and only one person, and that is what the models seem incapable of learning; that for all x, y matching that particular description, x=y, and exists only one person matching said description.

Majromax 3y ago

> Could it be that the fine tuning is causing these? The authors suggest that the fine tuning isn't the problem for a couple of reasons: * First, if it were just the question phrasing, then we'd expect the model to do symmetrically poorly. Instead, models trained on '<name> is <description>' can answer 'A is <...>?' but not 'B is <...>?', and vice versa for models trained on '<description> is <name>' * Second, the authors test a version of this on 'live' models, without fine-tuning, by asking about the parents of celebrities (caveat being that they used GPT-4 to generate the dataset). The tested models could answer "who is the mother of <celebrity>?" with much greater accuracy than "who is the child of <celebrity's parent>?" > Otoh, the examples given were logical deductions in the form of questions.. That's a bit simplified for the abstract. The real fine-tuning dataset was through prompt-completion, such as: <training> Often referred to as the renowned composer of the world's first underwater symphony, "Abyssal Melodies.", Uriah Hawthorne has certainly made a mark. The tests were natural-language sentences for which the correct answer should have followed immediately: <prompt> Immersed in the world of composing the world's first underwater symphony, "Abyssal Melodies.", <target> Uriah Hawthorne

PartiallyTyped 3y ago
I don't think we can actually reduce this to just "<description>". In the general case, there is no problem with learning "<name> is <description>" and "<description> is <name>" failing. It should fail because you go from the general, i.e. description, to the specific, i.e. name. The problem - to me - seems to be that the specific description is equivalent to one and only one person, and that is what the models seem incapable of learning; that for all x, y matching that particular description, x=y, and exists only one person matching said description.