> Yes, your links indicate that it's even more radical than you described at first The basic idea is the suffering of animals, factory-farmed or not. If you ca

> Yes, your links indicate that it's even more radical than you described at first The basic idea is the suffering of animals, factory-farmed or not. If you can recognise that, good for you. How far you want to take that is entirely up to you. > you don't speak for all vegans I have never claimed to if you actually read what I wrote.