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The first paragraph very nearly lost me – irrational, rage bait, directly contradicts later stated facts – but there’s some good content later. The chief compla
by handsclean 3y ago
The first paragraph very nearly lost me – irrational, rage bait, directly contradicts later stated facts – but there’s some good content later. The chief complaint seems to be that LastPass is not forcing this upgrade, they are just blast emailing unaffected people that they “forced” it while not actually doing so. And they’ve pulled similar stunts in the past, and in current communication seem to clearly be blaming users for their weak settings and passwords while erasing the fact that LastPass chose the settings, ok’d the passwords, botched the upgrade, and still hasn’t fixed most of their mistakes.
Everybody with a clue knows LastPass is a lost cause, but what’s more interesting to me is how we can generalize the lessons we’re learning here. I’d propose that user blaming in general is evidence of bad tech and magical thinking around it, and that points a finger at some very interesting targets.
- autoexec 3y ago> Everybody with a clue knows LastPass is a lost cause, Yeah at this point, I have to wonder how there are still lastpass users to worry about whatever the latest lastpass scandal is.
- ThrowawayTestr 3y agoI'm too lazy to change.
- kstrauser 3y agoTake the 10 minutes to migrate to Bitwarden or 1Password or such and be done with it.
- kawfey 3y agoit takes a bit more than 10 minutes to convince my family to also migrate their passwords and re-figure out how to use it when all their life they used the same password for everything.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y agoYeah, if you have no attachments, otherwise it takes days and a lot of programming knowledge
- kstrauser 3y agoYou can have them both installed. Migrate your passwords today, then the other stuff as you get around to it.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y agoThe problem is there is no way to say "show me all items with attachments", so it's extremely tedious to find those
- m-p-3 3y agoMy employer has a contract with LastPass, yeah..
- wglb 3y agoFriends don't let friends use LastPass.
- MavropaliasG 3y agoCan someone explain to me what is the advantage of using something like LastPass over simply the in-built password manager that Firefox or other browsers have? I know that LastPass can be used for desktop applications too, but if you are only using a password for the web, is LastPass offering anything more than the in-built browser password manager?
- Barrin92 3y agocredentials/certificates/keys/data storage, secure sharing etc. Pretty much anything that's more complex than single user username + password doesn't seem to be served by the current built-in managers.
- sshine 3y agoA lot of these require deeper system integration, and this is not, in my experience, cross-platform. I’d rather have to drag my SSH/VPN keys and certs around manually, and have basic password management working across iOS, MacOS and Linux.
- ketzo 3y agoSyncing to my phone apps is my big reason.
- bobbylarrybobby 3y agoSafari's built-in pw manager: - until recently, didn't have 2fa - doesn't support multiple domains under the same account (e.g., the stackexchange network is considered one site per subdomain) - doesn't support generating complex passwords (it'll generate passwords but I'd hardly call them complex…) - doesn't support credentials not associated with websites (e.g., an SSH login, a bank pin…)
- appplication 3y agoAlso doesn’t support recovery questions. As someone who generally enjoys safari, the password manager could use some love. Integration across devices is good though.