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This is not a satisfying answer. Sure, temp variations affect current farms and what they currently grow, but if you assume adaptation, it’s not so straightforw

This is not a satisfying answer. Sure, temp variations affect current farms and what they currently grow, but if you assume adaptation, it’s not so straightforward.

sebastianz 3y ago
That is the point: there are no satisfying answers and the future is increasingly uncertain and unstable.
wolverine876 3y ago
It's quite straightforward: The cost of 'adaptation' - moving global food production and populations - is astronomical; it's absurd. Just look at the impact of food logistics disruption in Ukraine.
vkou 3y ago
> but if you assume adaptation Adaptation will require moving tens and hundreds of millions of people, and we live in a world where people were screaming bloody murder over accepting 20,000 refugees that were fleeing a civil war that we have been pouring weapons and missiles into for the past 12 years. We're not interested in adaptation.
- swader999 3y ago
  Why? Which parts of earth need relocating?
pipo234 3y ago
"Adaptation" means: people moving from places that become uninhabitable (middle east, Africa, India, Latin America) to places that are inhabitable (Europe, USA, Russia, South America), while those people flee to places that become inhabitable (Alaska, Siberia). That's billions of people, trying to cross borders. In the mean time there will be failed harvests and conflicts around the globe. Yes, we'll adapt, human kind in some form will survive, but it's pretty gloomy.
- hackernewds 3y ago
  What if prevention is futile (human caused or not)? Wouldn't we be better off preparing (which seems practically possible) for the inevitable, rather than the futile exercise of burdening society with ESG, energy costs, etc
  - beej71 3y ago
    It probably is human caused and we're probably going over the falls because we're shit at long-term planning. But prevention can still soften the blow. Just because you're about to have a hard landing doesn't mean you take your hands off the stick.

This is not a satisfying answer. Sure, temp variations affect current farms and what they currently grow, but if you assume adaptation, it’s not so straightforward.

sebastianz 3y ago

That is the point: there are no satisfying answers and the future is increasingly uncertain and unstable.

wolverine876 3y ago

It's quite straightforward: The cost of 'adaptation' - moving global food production and populations - is astronomical; it's absurd. Just look at the impact of food logistics disruption in Ukraine.

vkou 3y ago

> but if you assume adaptation Adaptation will require moving tens and hundreds of millions of people, and we live in a world where people were screaming bloody murder over accepting 20,000 refugees that were fleeing a civil war that we have been pouring weapons and missiles into for the past 12 years. We're not interested in adaptation.

swader999 3y ago
Why? Which parts of earth need relocating?

pipo234 3y ago

"Adaptation" means: people moving from places that become uninhabitable (middle east, Africa, India, Latin America) to places that are inhabitable (Europe, USA, Russia, South America), while those people flee to places that become inhabitable (Alaska, Siberia). That's billions of people, trying to cross borders. In the mean time there will be failed harvests and conflicts around the globe. Yes, we'll adapt, human kind in some form will survive, but it's pretty gloomy.

hackernewds 3y ago
What if prevention is futile (human caused or not)? Wouldn't we be better off preparing (which seems practically possible) for the inevitable, rather than the futile exercise of burdening society with ESG, energy costs, etc
- beej71 3y ago
  It probably is human caused and we're probably going over the falls because we're shit at long-term planning. But prevention can still soften the blow. Just because you're about to have a hard landing doesn't mean you take your hands off the stick.