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> no company or product can grow alongside the internet forever without, eventually, being swallowed up. Even not Google. I wonder if they can still turn thing

> no company or product can grow alongside the internet forever without, eventually, being swallowed up. Even not Google. I wonder if they can still turn things around, but I have the feeling MS caught up finally at high speed and passed them. PS I was reading (sceptically) 'google search is broken' already for a year or so in HN comments and have to admit I believe it now.

wakeupcall 3y ago
> PS I was reading (sceptically) 'google search is broken' already for a year or so in HN comments and have to admit I believe it now. Even ignoring results, mainstream started to notice a while ago. Perhaps the biggest social proof at large is when it is shown distilled as comedy and people can laugh about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT7_SxJ3oSI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT7_SxJ3oSI
- emodendroket 3y ago
  The "mainstream" accepts many claims as true that can be objectively demonstrated to be false. Why should I have such confidence they're right about a theory like this that seems to be unfalsifiable?
  - wakeupcall 3y ago
    Did you watch the video, or is this a rhetorical response? Spoiler: it's about the conflict of interests in google search.
bayindirh 3y ago
First, results got worse. Then, ads’ started to increase. Then I moved to Kagi. Now, I’m happy.
- fuzztester 3y ago
  He he, can't resist reposting my recent comment from another thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37606618 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37606618 Also, searching for that quote on HN via Algolia gives many hits.
ComputerGuru 3y ago
I wrote about this back in 2015 or 2016, with specific examples that people are just now complaining about vocally (mainly the lack of respecting search keywords): https://neosmart.net/blog/on-the-growing-intentional-uselessness-of-google-search-results/ https://neosmart.net/blog/on-the-growing-intentional-useless...
fuzztester 3y ago
Easily for more than "a year or so".
- asdff 3y ago
  Probably more like 10 or 15 years or so
  - fuzztester 3y ago
    Right, but I wasn't sure of the number, or even the range, so didn't say that.

wakeupcall 3y ago

> PS I was reading (sceptically) 'google search is broken' already for a year or so in HN comments and have to admit I believe it now. Even ignoring results, mainstream started to notice a while ago. Perhaps the biggest social proof at large is when it is shown distilled as comedy and people can laugh about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT7_SxJ3oSI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT7_SxJ3oSI

emodendroket 3y ago
The "mainstream" accepts many claims as true that can be objectively demonstrated to be false. Why should I have such confidence they're right about a theory like this that seems to be unfalsifiable?
- wakeupcall 3y ago
  Did you watch the video, or is this a rhetorical response? Spoiler: it's about the conflict of interests in google search.

bayindirh 3y ago

First, results got worse. Then, ads’ started to increase. Then I moved to Kagi. Now, I’m happy.

fuzztester 3y ago
He he, can't resist reposting my recent comment from another thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37606618 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37606618 Also, searching for that quote on HN via Algolia gives many hits.

ComputerGuru 3y ago

I wrote about this back in 2015 or 2016, with specific examples that people are just now complaining about vocally (mainly the lack of respecting search keywords): https://neosmart.net/blog/on-the-growing-intentional-uselessness-of-google-search-results/ https://neosmart.net/blog/on-the-growing-intentional-useless...

fuzztester 3y ago

Easily for more than "a year or so".

asdff 3y ago
Probably more like 10 or 15 years or so
- fuzztester 3y ago
  Right, but I wasn't sure of the number, or even the range, so didn't say that.