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I don't think a tax like this would have the intention you think. It would likely increase outsourcing, massively benefit large corporations who can afford to a

I don't think a tax like this would have the intention you think. It would likely increase outsourcing, massively benefit large corporations who can afford to absorb the fees (and have better accountants/lawyers compared to startups), destroy the tax base of cities (after the companies flee to business friendly states), shut down tons of small business that rely on commuters/workers (like restaurants, bars, cleaning staff, etc). Believe it or not, many people like to see their co-workers daily and don't view going to an office as a crime against humanity. This forum skews heavily towards the opposite view obviously.

toomuchtodo 3y ago
Either pay for the climate damage you cause or don't cause it. If tariffs are needed to avoid using outsourcing to evade the spirit of the law, implement them. No freeloading, no papering over unsustainable systems. If city tax bases crumble, so be it. If small businesses fail, that is what one would expect in a dynamic, constantly changing economic system when the system changes. > Believe it or not, many people like to see their co-workers daily and don't view going to an office as a crime against humanity. This forum skews heavily towards the opposite view obviously. I take no issue, just pay your fully loaded costs to have this experience. My work is an income, not my social life, so I cannot relate. Now if your argument instead is, "My in office work life is a core component of myself but I also don't want to pay for the externalities living this experience causes because I didn't have to previously," I do not have much sympathy. https://www.gallup.com/workplace/397751/returning-office-current-preferred-future-state-remote-work.aspx https://www.gallup.com/workplace/397751/returning-office-cur... ("Approximately 56% of full-time employees in the U.S. -- more than 70 million workers -- say their job can be done working remotely from home.") https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/real-estate/our-insights/americans-are-embracing-flexible-work-and-they-want-more-of-it https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/real-estate/our-insights... ("Another of the survey’s revelations: when people have the chance to work flexibly, 87 percent of them take it.")
- Eumenes 3y ago
  Meh, I think the jury is still out on the effectiveness of carbon credits/offsets. Its a new system and there's no way in telling if it will have its intended impact. Levying taxes and enacting policy is an inherently political game, and these solutions impact people TODAY. Most people would prefer to keep their quality of life high today, vs mitigating some potential risk 100s of years from now when they won't even be alive.

toomuchtodo 3y ago

Either pay for the climate damage you cause or don't cause it. If tariffs are needed to avoid using outsourcing to evade the spirit of the law, implement them. No freeloading, no papering over unsustainable systems. If city tax bases crumble, so be it. If small businesses fail, that is what one would expect in a dynamic, constantly changing economic system when the system changes. > Believe it or not, many people like to see their co-workers daily and don't view going to an office as a crime against humanity. This forum skews heavily towards the opposite view obviously. I take no issue, just pay your fully loaded costs to have this experience. My work is an income, not my social life, so I cannot relate. Now if your argument instead is, "My in office work life is a core component of myself but I also don't want to pay for the externalities living this experience causes because I didn't have to previously," I do not have much sympathy. https://www.gallup.com/workplace/397751/returning-office-current-preferred-future-state-remote-work.aspx https://www.gallup.com/workplace/397751/returning-office-cur... ("Approximately 56% of full-time employees in the U.S. -- more than 70 million workers -- say their job can be done working remotely from home.") https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/real-estate/our-insights/americans-are-embracing-flexible-work-and-they-want-more-of-it https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/real-estate/our-insights... ("Another of the survey’s revelations: when people have the chance to work flexibly, 87 percent of them take it.")

Eumenes 3y ago
Meh, I think the jury is still out on the effectiveness of carbon credits/offsets. Its a new system and there's no way in telling if it will have its intended impact. Levying taxes and enacting policy is an inherently political game, and these solutions impact people TODAY. Most people would prefer to keep their quality of life high today, vs mitigating some potential risk 100s of years from now when they won't even be alive.