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Oh they didn't walk it back. It's now one of two ways for them to get a percent of your revenue - that did change. (It also was only going to kick in once your

by sounds 3y ago

Oh they didn't walk it back. It's now one of two ways for them to get a percent of your revenue - that did change. (It also was only going to kick in once your revenue hit a certain point.) The CEO John R. didn't chime in here, and that would have meant him being accountable for this decision and its effect on Unity. His mask slipped here.

brucethemoose2 3y ago
They did walk back charging per download/install. There was no way they couldn't. Its literally not practical.
- Applejinx 3y ago
  You misunderstand, I think. ACCOUNTABILITY would not be practical. Them charging for whatever they can make up and claim to be true, is neither walked back or not walked back. It's waiting to happen again, in whatever way they dream up. You're assuming they wouldn't simply make stuff up and that there would be a chain of accountability, so the process would make sense. Such things are for making money, not sense. You have not seen the last of them.
- coldpie 3y ago
  Sorry, where did they walk it back? The letter linked in this thread still refers to the "runtime fee".
  - brucethemoose2 3y ago
    https://www.axios.com/2023/09/13/unity-runtime-fee-policy-marc-whitten https://www.axios.com/2023/09/13/unity-runtime-fee-policy-ma... > After initially telling Axios earlier Tuesday that a player installing a game, deleting it and installing it again would result in multiple fees, Unity'sWhitten told Axios that the company would actually only charge for an initial installation. (A spokesperson told Axios that Unity had "regrouped" to discuss the issue.)
    - dpkonofa 3y ago
      That's not walking back. That's taking a step back. The runtime fees still exist.
- 3836293648 3y ago
  They only walked back it applying retroactively. Now it's from the next LTS release. It applying to free games was walked back immediately and isn't news
usea 3y ago
If you're working on strategy at Unity in good faith right now, I think you announce like they did rather than having the CEO take accountability. Because I think the CEO apology strategy depends on the CEO's ability to convince people he's sincere and contrite. That's a tall order under these circumstances.
- Macha 3y ago
  Even for a decision by middle management, the trustworthiness of senior management is a cap on how much you can trust middle management - how can you trust a decision more than you trust the people with the ability to overrule it?

by sounds 3y ago

brucethemoose2 3y ago

They did walk back charging per download/install. There was no way they couldn't. Its literally not practical.

Applejinx 3y ago
You misunderstand, I think. ACCOUNTABILITY would not be practical. Them charging for whatever they can make up and claim to be true, is neither walked back or not walked back. It's waiting to happen again, in whatever way they dream up. You're assuming they wouldn't simply make stuff up and that there would be a chain of accountability, so the process would make sense. Such things are for making money, not sense. You have not seen the last of them.
coldpie 3y ago
Sorry, where did they walk it back? The letter linked in this thread still refers to the "runtime fee".
- brucethemoose2 3y ago
  https://www.axios.com/2023/09/13/unity-runtime-fee-policy-marc-whitten https://www.axios.com/2023/09/13/unity-runtime-fee-policy-ma... > After initially telling Axios earlier Tuesday that a player installing a game, deleting it and installing it again would result in multiple fees, Unity'sWhitten told Axios that the company would actually only charge for an initial installation. (A spokesperson told Axios that Unity had "regrouped" to discuss the issue.)
  - dpkonofa 3y ago
    That's not walking back. That's taking a step back. The runtime fees still exist.
3836293648 3y ago
They only walked back it applying retroactively. Now it's from the next LTS release. It applying to free games was walked back immediately and isn't news

usea 3y ago

If you're working on strategy at Unity in good faith right now, I think you announce like they did rather than having the CEO take accountability. Because I think the CEO apology strategy depends on the CEO's ability to convince people he's sincere and contrite. That's a tall order under these circumstances.

Macha 3y ago
Even for a decision by middle management, the trustworthiness of senior management is a cap on how much you can trust middle management - how can you trust a decision more than you trust the people with the ability to overrule it?