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Theft doesn't happen because you have inadequate deterrence. It just makes you the target. Theft happens because somebody chooses to be a fucking thief. This i
by busterarm 3y ago
Theft doesn't happen because you have inadequate deterrence. It just makes you the target. Theft happens because somebody chooses to be a fucking thief.
This isn't a problem that Kia/Hyundai has to deal with so much in their home market. It's a problem exclusive to large American cities. It's not Kia/Hyundai's fault that people in large American cities are fucking thieves in record numbers.
The locks on your house are just as insecure as on these vehicles. Are we at fault when our homes are broken into?
The US could also very easily do as Canada does and require electronic immobilizers on new vehicles. It does not.
The problem here sounds entirely like it's down to Americans and their government.
And I really don't understand what you're on about. Yes, criminals should be blamed for committing crimes. Your argument is akin to saying that if a robber snatches a woman's purse it's her fault for being a weak woman.
- plagiarist 3y ago> The locks on your house are just as insecure as on these vehicles. Are we at fault when our homes are broken into? My house cannot be opened in seconds with a USB cable https://www.axios.com/2022/08/27/kia-hyundai-thefts-stolen-usb-immobilizer-tiktok https://www.axios.com/2022/08/27/kia-hyundai-thefts-stolen-u... Nobody is blaming the woman here, they are blaming the purse manufacturer.
- busterarm 3y agoYour house can be opened in one second with a rock. It's called breaking a window. Most security is illusory. Or if they want to look legitimate, a small hammer and a bump key. As for the purse manufacturer comment, not only is that ludicrous but you missed the point.
- plagiarist 3y agoThe rock alerts the neighbors. Opportunistic thieves don't want that. People are more likely to steal a car if they can get in and go in seconds. I'm sorry your own analogy worked against you, try thinking a bit harder next time.
- busterarm 3y agoCar thieves start by breaking your window...
- MikusR 3y agoYour house can be opened in seconds using jigglers, combs and bumpkeys.
- happytiger 3y agoWhen you offer antitheft tools that don’t work, it doesn’t matter whether the egg or the chicken came first in terms of theft, it matters that your solution didn’t work the way you claimed it would. Big difference. If they sold cars without locks and antitheft all your points would be on point. When our homes are broken into a the alarm company you paid money to put in an alarm in your house doesn’t actually work and then people die in your house and they still don’t do anything about it, then your close to what is avtually happening. Spot on about the governments inaction though. That part is entirely correct.
- busterarm 3y agoEvery lock can be bypassed. Almost 100% of them can be bypassed trivially. By your standard, no locks work.
- happytiger 3y agoI have already preempively addressed this argument. TLDR; Almost all non-lethal security is deterrance not solution. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37617964 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37617964