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Even if this were the case (it's not), there's still a time cost - I have to find the brand without the logo that's the same quality. I buy athletic shorts mayb

Even if this were the case (it's not), there's still a time cost - I have to find the brand without the logo that's the same quality. I buy athletic shorts maybe once every 2-3 years almost always on Black Friday. I know Nike shorts will be high quality, and I know they'll fit. Wading through the many non-logo brands, trying them on, returning the ones that are bad, etc. might take me several hours to save tens of dollars. The point here is that you're misunderstanding why the logo matters. I don't care if there's a logo on my shorts or not - I care what the logo represents, which is a brand that consistently produces high-quality goods. I'm willing to pay more for that, especially when it saves me time shopping.

rendall 3y ago
Learn to recognize quality by sight, particularly by stitching and materials, not logo. Logos are not emblematic of quality, but of good marketing (shoes aside - Nike makes good sneakers).
- blairbeckwith 3y ago
  Do you ever buy anything online? You are taking this really self-righteous, “explain yourself” attitude while seemingly not understanding that you are the one who is odd.
- thfuran 3y ago
  Yeah, any truly talented couturier can simply lick the monitor to get a sense of the product they're looking at.
rendall 3y ago
If you take the time to understand what makes a quality shoe, it will save you time and money and embarrassment (like, you wouldn't be caught dead wearing Common Projects and would be embarrassed for someone wearing them). No need to rely on logos, which is weakly correlated to quality. Check this channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/RoseAnvil https://www.youtube.com/c/RoseAnvil
- idopmstuff 3y ago
  > you wouldn't be caught dead wearing Common Projects and would be embarrassed for someone wearing them Y'know, you seem more focused on logos and their importance than anybody else here. I would never been embarrassed for someone wearing a certain kind of shoe. I'm not judging people based on logos, since what brand of shoe someone else is wearing has absolutely no impact on my life. For athletic shoes, I wear Mizunos. Went to a good running store once, spent an hour with the old grizzled guy there until I found a shoe I liked, and I've stuck with the brand ever since. They've got a big logo on the side, but again, I don't care about that; I care about the fact that I know the shoe will be high quality and fit well. > No need to rely on logos, which is weakly correlated to quality. No, that's a made up fact that is wrong. Brands tend to be pretty consistent in their quality over time, especially those that have been around a while. > Check this channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/RoseAnvil https://www.youtube.com/c/RoseAnvil I'm not going to check that channel because, again, the point here is that I don't want to spend a bunch of time learning about how shoes are made. I just want to buy a good quality shoe (or short, or whatever) and brand is a fine proxy for that. The amount of money I spend buying a reputable brand is well worth it given the time I save by not watching videos like whatever the one you linked is.
  - pfannkuchen 3y ago
    Well sure, they have identified that people wearing logos is strange and they don’t like it. Why wouldn’t they be more focused on logos than someone who hasn’t noticed this? It is kind of hard to notice given how common it is, and I think one has to be at least slightly detached from the zeitgeist to really notice the strangeness.
  - rendall 3y ago
    > No, that's a made up fact that is wrong. Brands tend to be pretty consistent in their quality over time, especially those that have been around a while You said you use logos as a proxy for quality because you don't have time to understand how to evaluate quality, nor learn what brands have quality but no logos. There is an inconsistency there. How would you know quality if "does it have a logo?" is how you evaluate it? > The amount of money I spend buying a reputable brand is well worth it given the time I save Do you save time and money though, for real? Clothing is literally the thing that touches your body the overwhelming majority of your time and clothed is the only way the vast majority of people will ever see you. Isn't it worth taking an afternoon or a weekend and learning the fundamentals of how to look good? I mean if you want to spend a lot of money on a reputable brand and be sure of quality, try https://www.jcrew.com https://www.jcrew.com or if you want to be adventurous https://makia.com/ https://makia.com/ Alright, internet stranger, I'm sorry to have upset you. If you genuinely love Adidas track suits and the Nike swoop on your hat and the LV on your bag, then fly that flag high and proud! No one can stop you.

rendall 3y ago

Learn to recognize quality by sight, particularly by stitching and materials, not logo. Logos are not emblematic of quality, but of good marketing (shoes aside - Nike makes good sneakers).

blairbeckwith 3y ago
Do you ever buy anything online? You are taking this really self-righteous, “explain yourself” attitude while seemingly not understanding that you are the one who is odd.
thfuran 3y ago
Yeah, any truly talented couturier can simply lick the monitor to get a sense of the product they're looking at.

rendall 3y ago

If you take the time to understand what makes a quality shoe, it will save you time and money and embarrassment (like, you wouldn't be caught dead wearing Common Projects and would be embarrassed for someone wearing them). No need to rely on logos, which is weakly correlated to quality. Check this channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/RoseAnvil https://www.youtube.com/c/RoseAnvil

idopmstuff 3y ago
> you wouldn't be caught dead wearing Common Projects and would be embarrassed for someone wearing them Y'know, you seem more focused on logos and their importance than anybody else here. I would never been embarrassed for someone wearing a certain kind of shoe. I'm not judging people based on logos, since what brand of shoe someone else is wearing has absolutely no impact on my life. For athletic shoes, I wear Mizunos. Went to a good running store once, spent an hour with the old grizzled guy there until I found a shoe I liked, and I've stuck with the brand ever since. They've got a big logo on the side, but again, I don't care about that; I care about the fact that I know the shoe will be high quality and fit well. > No need to rely on logos, which is weakly correlated to quality. No, that's a made up fact that is wrong. Brands tend to be pretty consistent in their quality over time, especially those that have been around a while. > Check this channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/RoseAnvil https://www.youtube.com/c/RoseAnvil I'm not going to check that channel because, again, the point here is that I don't want to spend a bunch of time learning about how shoes are made. I just want to buy a good quality shoe (or short, or whatever) and brand is a fine proxy for that. The amount of money I spend buying a reputable brand is well worth it given the time I save by not watching videos like whatever the one you linked is.
- pfannkuchen 3y ago
  Well sure, they have identified that people wearing logos is strange and they don’t like it. Why wouldn’t they be more focused on logos than someone who hasn’t noticed this? It is kind of hard to notice given how common it is, and I think one has to be at least slightly detached from the zeitgeist to really notice the strangeness.
- rendall 3y ago
  > No, that's a made up fact that is wrong. Brands tend to be pretty consistent in their quality over time, especially those that have been around a while You said you use logos as a proxy for quality because you don't have time to understand how to evaluate quality, nor learn what brands have quality but no logos. There is an inconsistency there. How would you know quality if "does it have a logo?" is how you evaluate it? > The amount of money I spend buying a reputable brand is well worth it given the time I save Do you save time and money though, for real? Clothing is literally the thing that touches your body the overwhelming majority of your time and clothed is the only way the vast majority of people will ever see you. Isn't it worth taking an afternoon or a weekend and learning the fundamentals of how to look good? I mean if you want to spend a lot of money on a reputable brand and be sure of quality, try https://www.jcrew.com https://www.jcrew.com or if you want to be adventurous https://makia.com/ https://makia.com/ Alright, internet stranger, I'm sorry to have upset you. If you genuinely love Adidas track suits and the Nike swoop on your hat and the LV on your bag, then fly that flag high and proud! No one can stop you.