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> Just look at where cable TV is. With a cable DVR you can arbitrarily control the video stream. You never have to watch an ad if you don't want to. Amazon won

by gdulli 3y ago

> Just look at where cable TV is. With a cable DVR you can arbitrarily control the video stream. You never have to watch an ad if you don't want to. Amazon won't let you conveniently skip these ads. Streaming was always going to be about losing that freedom. Cable companies weren't bold enough to take that away, or it never occurred to them. The last time I had Spotify installed, it wouldn't even credit me with having heard an ad if I muted my speakers.

ToucanLoucan 3y ago
Even putting aside the ubiquity of tech like this: we had a particularly busy year and I ended up traveling a lot more often for work than I usually do, and it was insane to me how many fucking ads are in television now. Mind you I was a from the go cord cutter, when I left my parents and spread my wings, I never once wanted cable. I had it through them and it was... fine. Certainly not worth the absurd prices it goes for and as such, I have never, ever had it. In general my interests are niche too so even OTA TV is just not interesting to me. I watch YouTube, my iTunes library, and a plex box for... other stuff. That's it. And it just blew my mind, I'm doing some work in the hotel room and I want some background noise, so I flip on the TV and... ads. Ads ads ads ads ads. For every 30 minute block I would say it's 55/45 between content and ads. And endless parade of medications, medical devices, lawyers promising to get you more medicare money, shitty fast food, how to lose all the weight you gained from eating the shitty fast food. And the repetition. Oh. My. Lord. Like I genuinely can't tell if this is just because I haven't watched TV to any extent since I was living with my parents during schooling, but I do not remember the mix of ads being so lean. Or maybe it's because they're running more of them, I don't know. But I swore over the course of a week long hotel stay I saw a particular ad for Wendy's at least a hundred fucking times.
- gdulli 3y ago
  Ads aren't going away, the war is lost, no service will leave that money on the table anymore past its temporary startup customer-friendly phase. It's not worth complaining about. What does still matter is whether the video stream tech gives you the freedom to seek/skip or not. Then the ads become more or less moot. Plex for local media gives you freedom, sure. My cable box does. Streaming will not.
  - tomjen3 3y ago
    Its worth complaining about to hold back the stream of shit for a while. But you are right eventually ads will get everywhere and even if you are willing to pay more it just means you are making enough that they can charge you even more. The solution is to abandon any platform you can where you can't block ads.
- monetus 3y ago
  A lot of channels, opinion news ones IME, seem to have reverted to early Crunchyroll levels of ad redundancy. Are there fewer bids for the ad spots? Is the audience too small or a narrow part of it so valuable that the prices for the spots only make sense for a few products that happen to be scammy shite? You're not alone in feeling like the ads have changed a bit.

by gdulli 3y ago

ToucanLoucan 3y ago

Even putting aside the ubiquity of tech like this: we had a particularly busy year and I ended up traveling a lot more often for work than I usually do, and it was insane to me how many fucking ads are in television now. Mind you I was a from the go cord cutter, when I left my parents and spread my wings, I never once wanted cable. I had it through them and it was... fine. Certainly not worth the absurd prices it goes for and as such, I have never, ever had it. In general my interests are niche too so even OTA TV is just not interesting to me. I watch YouTube, my iTunes library, and a plex box for... other stuff. That's it. And it just blew my mind, I'm doing some work in the hotel room and I want some background noise, so I flip on the TV and... ads. Ads ads ads ads ads. For every 30 minute block I would say it's 55/45 between content and ads. And endless parade of medications, medical devices, lawyers promising to get you more medicare money, shitty fast food, how to lose all the weight you gained from eating the shitty fast food. And the repetition. Oh. My. Lord. Like I genuinely can't tell if this is just because I haven't watched TV to any extent since I was living with my parents during schooling, but I do not remember the mix of ads being so lean. Or maybe it's because they're running more of them, I don't know. But I swore over the course of a week long hotel stay I saw a particular ad for Wendy's at least a hundred fucking times.

gdulli 3y ago
Ads aren't going away, the war is lost, no service will leave that money on the table anymore past its temporary startup customer-friendly phase. It's not worth complaining about. What does still matter is whether the video stream tech gives you the freedom to seek/skip or not. Then the ads become more or less moot. Plex for local media gives you freedom, sure. My cable box does. Streaming will not.
- tomjen3 3y ago
  Its worth complaining about to hold back the stream of shit for a while. But you are right eventually ads will get everywhere and even if you are willing to pay more it just means you are making enough that they can charge you even more. The solution is to abandon any platform you can where you can't block ads.
monetus 3y ago
A lot of channels, opinion news ones IME, seem to have reverted to early Crunchyroll levels of ad redundancy. Are there fewer bids for the ad spots? Is the audience too small or a narrow part of it so valuable that the prices for the spots only make sense for a few products that happen to be scammy shite? You're not alone in feeling like the ads have changed a bit.